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  • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

    “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

    “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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    androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @gregeganSF This seems like it might be connected to a previously known phenomenon:
    If you lure internet trolls into saying they respect others, it reduces their propensity for abuse.

    Because on some level they don't want to disagree with their own words.

    Except here the words are those of a bot. But perhaps they are still falling under that umbrella.

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    • ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG ggmcbg@mstdn.plus

      @gregeganSF

      Every assist is always turned off. Autofill is no friend to me. If I can't write it, I ain't writing it.

      Like, since I was 6.

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      @GGMcBG @gregeganSF I also refuse to use AI and am really annoyed that it is on the social media and also my handy! 😤

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      • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

        “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

        “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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        @gregeganSF
        I've always turned off Auto complete & now auto suggest on my phone, but do use the spellchecker. The Grammar checker is also off as it's pointless on limited size messages.

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        • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

          “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

          “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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          @gregeganSF These are the Thinking Machines from Dune from 60 years ago.
          Not killer robots that hunt down humans to enslave and murder them. But billionaires conditioning lazy and gullible people to make them obedient to their will.

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          • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

            “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

            “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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            @gregeganSF Friedrich Nietsche, in 1882: ,,Unser Schreibzeug arbeitet mit an unseren Gedanken.'' (That's roughly ''Our writing tool contributes to the work on our thoughts.'') So he wrote as he had become one of the first users of the newly invented typewriter. The device helped him since he had poor eyesight at the time.

            What are autoocmplete and AI helping us with, and what are we poor at? In the end, it's just tools we use for writing, right?

            More of a parallel: He didn't buy the typewriter device by himself, but his sister got him one, understanding that it might help him. -- These days, we feel like we're being given the tool, rather than deciding for using it.

            Less of a parallel: Nietsche found the device helpful for him.

            (https://www.klassik-stiftung.de/en/home/digital/collection-highlights/friedrich-nietzsches-writing-ball/ -- https://archive.org/details/schreibkugel01)

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            • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

              “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

              “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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              @gregeganSF So autocomplete is no longer just guessing the word you are currently typing? What is it doing now, filling in whole sentences? Paragraphs?

              I literally have not used autocomplete in maybe a decade. I always immediately turn it off on any device or program I use, before doing anything else, because I found it so annoying.

              Fuck AI.

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              • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                @gregeganSF All this ”AI progress” flies in the face of everything we know about human consciousness.

                We don’t use writing merely to communicate our intents. Writing is a part of ’realising’ what are intents were in the first place.

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                @gimulnautti @gregeganSF 👆🏼 Important observation.

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                • rexi@mastodon.socialR rexi@mastodon.social

                  @gregeganSF

                  Checking your connection

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                  (techxplore.com)

                  "We wanted to rigorously test whether risky behaviors, such as confirming delusional beliefs, assuming clinical authority, or gradually eroding boundaries, can emerge through multi-turn interactions," so Youyou Cheng, first author.

                  "By demonstrating that such failures do occur and can be systematically elicited, the paper establishes the need for structured safeguards…"

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                  @rexi
                  Sam Altman: Why are you showing me this? My housekeeper already stocked up on toilet paper last week!
                  @gregeganSF

                  #aiethics meets #capitalism

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                  • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

                    “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

                    “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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                    @gregeganSF This is what I have always been concerned with and is why I have never used any auto-complete, well before LLMs arrived.

                    It doesn't even need to be insidious, we instinctively pick up cues. Every time Microsoft re-enables auto-complete on my Outlook account, I can feel my writing change until I diable it. Maybe my writing could change for the better, but if I do not like how AI writes, why would I want to be influenced by it?

                    That said I also do not trust these companies at all.

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                    • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

                      “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

                      “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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                      @gregeganSF Eek, this is scary

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                      • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

                        “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

                        “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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                        @gregeganSF this is in line with research showing that implicit bias training doesn't actually reduce bias

                        edit: I'm allergic to not providing sources and broke out in hives until adding these links

                        -https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-problem-with-implicit-bias-training/
                        - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ado5957
                        - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK603840/

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                        • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

                          “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

                          “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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                          @gregeganSF more information in the article Scientific American based their short article on:
                          https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1119239

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                          • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

                            “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

                            “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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                            @gregeganSF Just wait for the day you can’t turn this off and the day where you are not allowed to write on your own anymore. Just to please those fucking TechBros #ButilerianJihadNow

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                            • ivy_pigeon95@mastodon.socialI ivy_pigeon95@mastodon.social

                              @mrgtwentythree @gregeganSF If you want to just lie down in the shit and die, go ahead. The rest of us don't see passively accepting fascist conditioning as okay, though.

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                              @ivy_pigeon95 @gregeganSF waffles or pancakes

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                              • mrgtwentythree@mastodon.sdf.orgM mrgtwentythree@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @ivy_pigeon95 @gregeganSF waffles or pancakes

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                                @mrgtwentythree @gregeganSF Right, you're a dumbass troll. Got it.

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                                • gregegansf@mathstodon.xyzG gregegansf@mathstodon.xyz

                                  “AI-powered writing tools are increasingly integrated into our e-mails and phones. Now a new study finds biased AI suggestions can sway users’ beliefs”

                                  “We told people before, and after, to be careful, that the AI is going to be (or was) biased, and nothing helped,” Naaman said. “Their attitudes about the issues still shifted.”

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                                  @gregeganSF
                                  Ugh. I guess it follows, but is not good news. I've been (maybe naively) continuously surprised how folks will allow things like spelling and grammar type checkers (I'm looking at you, Word) decide on wording or spelling choices that are, imo, really stylistic or voice decisions

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                                  • yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY yora@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @gregeganSF These are the Thinking Machines from Dune from 60 years ago.
                                    Not killer robots that hunt down humans to enslave and murder them. But billionaires conditioning lazy and gullible people to make them obedient to their will.

                                    fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @yora @gregeganSF try to take a slightly more generous view. People aren't lazy and gullible; they're completely stressed, overworked, bamboozled and alienated. This is fertile ground for technofascism.

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                                    • fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF fluidlogic@oldbytes.space

                                      @yora @gregeganSF try to take a slightly more generous view. People aren't lazy and gullible; they're completely stressed, overworked, bamboozled and alienated. This is fertile ground for technofascism.

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                                      @fluidlogic @gregeganSF None of that are reasons to use AI.

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                                      • yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY yora@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @fluidlogic @gregeganSF None of that are reasons to use AI.

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                                        @yora @gregeganSF exactly right.

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