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The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

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  • mxchara@seattle.pinkM mxchara@seattle.pink

    @amosmulder Is @Blender's software even all that good? One can only hope that there are, in fact, alternatives in the works—from what I've seen so far anyway the Blender "user experience" is a deeply unpleasant one, so the knowledge that Blender's also been sopping up lots of technofascist cash suggests to me the crying need to abandon Blender altogether. Now that's a long-term sort of answer; it takes time to make software as complex as Blender. But holy heck...it would be nice if there were something else out there. Almost anything else!

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    @amosmulder Oh, and let me point out something obvious: shitty @Blender UX is, from the perspective of the "generative AI" slop juggernaut, a golden opportunity. "Generative AI" starts to look like an awfully tempting shortcut solution to shitty software which people don't want to abandon for business reasons. #Blender and indeed almost all complex corporate #software is a nightmare for the unsophisticated user—in steps the slop machine, offering the user the tempting choice of not caring that the software is overcomplicated bloatware because now an "agent" is handling it.

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    • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

      The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

      This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

      #b3d #DevFund

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      @Blender this is nothing, it is corporate drivel with no meaning

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      • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

        The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

        This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

        #b3d #DevFund

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        @Blender you're on Anthropic's payroll now. de facto

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        • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

          The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

          This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

          #b3d #DevFund

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          #24

          @Blender i love the comments in the thread and i agree.

          Its similar to accepting blood diamonds as a donation.

          The source of the money matters.

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          • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

            The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

            This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

            #b3d #DevFund

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            #25

            @Blender TLDR: you're idiots for being upset and nothing fundamentally changes.

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            • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

              The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

              This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

              #b3d #DevFund

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              #26

              @Blender "Blender is a tool for artists and creators, it’s made by humans for humans."
              What place does generative AI have here, then?
              I don't usually think that purity should stand in the way of the good but as you say yourself, you are a tool for artists and genAI is hurting artists. Anthropic is hurting your user base. I understand that FOSS projects need funding but this is a line in the sand moment.

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              • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                #b3d #DevFund

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                #27

                @Blender I guess I'll be a dissenting voice here, but for as evil Anthropic is, funding from Meta is a thousand times worse. That bothered me more and will continue to bother me more.

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                • kosure@mas.toK kosure@mas.to

                  @Blender TLDR: you're idiots for being upset and nothing fundamentally changes.

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                  #28

                  @Blender It looks like (other than a logo on the website) Patrons get their calls answered by the Board and a dev team to help them. I wonder if $281k+ grants one some of those considerations regardless of what it's called.

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                  • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                    The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                    This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                    #b3d #DevFund

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                    #29

                    @Blender

                    company: we're going to do something really extremely bad for our customers and possibly even people who aren't our customers. we think this is good

                    furious internet mob: we hate this

                    company: we'd like to clarify our intentions. just to be clear: we're doing the same thing but we'd like you to hate it a little less now

                    Return the blood money and make a permanent stand against Ai companies and not just a wishy washy “for now” and leaving that door unlocked #blender

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                    • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                      The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                      This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                      #b3d #DevFund

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                      bachus@mastodon.social
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                      #30

                      @Blender You can address the issue by giving the blood money back and by pledging to never add AI bullshit into Blender, ever.

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                      • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                        The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                        This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                        #b3d #DevFund

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                        legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al
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                        @Blender So y'all understand this was a wildly unpopular move and an unnecessary own-goal.

                        Good.

                        The question that remains to be addressed is this: What does Anthropic get out of this deal?

                        Corporations do not give away money without strings attached. That's not how business works. So if they're giving you money, as a Blender user and supporter, I would like to know what you are giving them in return. That will inform whether I and others will support you in the future.

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                        • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                          The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                          This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                          #b3d #DevFund

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                          @Blender
                          Genocide $$$

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                          • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                            The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                            This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                            #b3d #DevFund

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                            @Blender easy: RETURN THE MONEY. State AND abide by a total, complete, absolute, comprehensive opposition to everything anthropic is.

                            See? Easy!

                            #Blender #anthropic #ai #LLM #slop #unethical #FOSS

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                            • mxchara@seattle.pinkM mxchara@seattle.pink

                              @amosmulder Oh, and let me point out something obvious: shitty @Blender UX is, from the perspective of the "generative AI" slop juggernaut, a golden opportunity. "Generative AI" starts to look like an awfully tempting shortcut solution to shitty software which people don't want to abandon for business reasons. #Blender and indeed almost all complex corporate #software is a nightmare for the unsophisticated user—in steps the slop machine, offering the user the tempting choice of not caring that the software is overcomplicated bloatware because now an "agent" is handling it.

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                              @mxchara @Blender As far as I'm concerned Blender is great software and the fact that it's made by a community makes it even better.

                              Of course there's quite a learning curve, but that's not different with all comparable 3D software. There is no easy fix if you want all the control 3D software offers.
                              Lot's of people are putting in the hours and make great work with Blender. If you want instant results this kind of software is not for you to begin with I guess.

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                              • lynndotpy@mastodon.socialL lynndotpy@mastodon.social

                                @Blender I guess I'll be a dissenting voice here, but for as evil Anthropic is, funding from Meta is a thousand times worse. That bothered me more and will continue to bother me more.

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                                @lynndotpy @Blender do you want Blender to be a less capable tool for millions of people just so you can feel a bit more righteous?

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                                • amosmulder@mastodon.socialA amosmulder@mastodon.social

                                  @mxchara @Blender As far as I'm concerned Blender is great software and the fact that it's made by a community makes it even better.

                                  Of course there's quite a learning curve, but that's not different with all comparable 3D software. There is no easy fix if you want all the control 3D software offers.
                                  Lot's of people are putting in the hours and make great work with Blender. If you want instant results this kind of software is not for you to begin with I guess.

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                                  #36

                                  @amosmulder @Blender Did I say anything about wanting instant results? I remind you that Blender is collaborating with crooks selling "AI" whose chief promise is instant results. Are you actually pretending that merely because you like the UX, everyone else ought to like it as well?

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                                  • mxchara@seattle.pinkM mxchara@seattle.pink

                                    @amosmulder @Blender Did I say anything about wanting instant results? I remind you that Blender is collaborating with crooks selling "AI" whose chief promise is instant results. Are you actually pretending that merely because you like the UX, everyone else ought to like it as well?

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                                    @mxchara @amosmulder

                                    There are forks which attempt to improve Blender's UI like BforArtists. Since the software is free and open source, the source code can be changed and edited to improve the overall experience.

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                                    • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                                      The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                                      This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                                      #b3d #DevFund

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                                      #38

                                      @Blender

                                      How's that resignation announcement coming along Francesco?

                                      You appear to not have the skills for your job.

                                      How much are you getting paid anyway?

                                      This "donation" benefits you personally.

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                                      • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                                        The recent announcement about Anthropic joining the Blender Development Fund as a Corporate Patron member has raised concerns from the community around how we engage with AI topics.

                                        This is how we plan to address the issue: https://www.blender.org/news/upcoming-blender-development-fund-and-ai-policies/

                                        #b3d #DevFund

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                                        #39

                                        @Blender “We should have opened up more conversation and perspectives from contributors before making this decision, and for that we are sorry.”

                                        We’re so sorry in fact, that we listened to how our community didn’t want us to take money from a company that contributes to war and violence, as well as builds its machine from the plagiarism of blender modellers and artists - and we’re happy to announce that we will be accepting money from Anthropic!

                                        What the hell. It’s very impressive that this corporate pr spin is being accepted by other people here though.

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                                        • legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                          @Blender So y'all understand this was a wildly unpopular move and an unnecessary own-goal.

                                          Good.

                                          The question that remains to be addressed is this: What does Anthropic get out of this deal?

                                          Corporations do not give away money without strings attached. That's not how business works. So if they're giving you money, as a Blender user and supporter, I would like to know what you are giving them in return. That will inform whether I and others will support you in the future.

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                                          @Legit_Spaghetti

                                          Marketing and self interest. Donate to one of the most successful open-source projects for creatives out there, release a separate tool to interface with said project. Get good press for your newly released tool.

                                          NVIDIA, Adobe, Meta, Google et al. - they're not the first AI company on the list, and the rules are clear:
                                          https://fund.blender.org/funding-policy/

                                          All these companies sponsor the Linux Foundation as well (Anthropic included). 😔

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