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I think the unpopularity of generative AI outside of the tech bubble is overstated.

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  • matt@toot.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mastodon.social/@botwiki/116555961642959580

    I think the unpopularity of generative AI outside of the tech bubble is overstated. Take my brother Andrew, who's about as far outside of the tech bubble as a middle-class white American man can be. He willingly uses generative AI at work. He at least somewhat understands its weaknesses, but he treats it as a tool like any other.

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      RE: https://mastodon.social/@botwiki/116555961642959580

      I think the unpopularity of generative AI outside of the tech bubble is overstated. Take my brother Andrew, who's about as far outside of the tech bubble as a middle-class white American man can be. He willingly uses generative AI at work. He at least somewhat understands its weaknesses, but he treats it as a tool like any other.

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      @matt I'd be curious if there are any good surveys of people outside of tech.

      OTOH, the non-tech folks in my family and friend circle seem to be uniformly anti-AI without having much input on my part. A few have asked me what I thought of it, but mostly I've been told unprompted that they dislike it.

      But, I also see articles about AI in education where teachers are struggling with students who want to use it in classes, even for fiction writing! (Why??)

      I suspect it's a lot like politics--the people you are most often in contact with tend to hold the same values. So it seems like *everybody* does, or that the other opinions are outliers.

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        RE: https://mastodon.social/@botwiki/116555961642959580

        I think the unpopularity of generative AI outside of the tech bubble is overstated. Take my brother Andrew, who's about as far outside of the tech bubble as a middle-class white American man can be. He willingly uses generative AI at work. He at least somewhat understands its weaknesses, but he treats it as a tool like any other.

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        On the other hand, my sister, who also works outside of big tech (as a graphic designer), is, last I checked, broadly anti-AI, for the usual reasons that progressive non-tech folks are against AI (environmental cost especially from what she's said).

        Maybe the difference is that, last I checked, my brother is politically right-leaning at least, while my sister is progressive.

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          @matt I'd be curious if there are any good surveys of people outside of tech.

          OTOH, the non-tech folks in my family and friend circle seem to be uniformly anti-AI without having much input on my part. A few have asked me what I thought of it, but mostly I've been told unprompted that they dislike it.

          But, I also see articles about AI in education where teachers are struggling with students who want to use it in classes, even for fiction writing! (Why??)

          I suspect it's a lot like politics--the people you are most often in contact with tend to hold the same values. So it seems like *everybody* does, or that the other opinions are outliers.

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          @jzb

          "any good surveys of people outside of tech"

          Yes, see the link from the original post.

          @matt

          "Take my brother Andrew"

          That's just anecdotal evidence, though. Did you look through the actual studies I linked to?

          "politically right-leaning"

          Yep, that checks out.

          https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/09/ai-and-the-fight-between-democracy-and-autocracy/684095/

          https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

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          • matt@toot.cafeM matt@toot.cafe

            On the other hand, my sister, who also works outside of big tech (as a graphic designer), is, last I checked, broadly anti-AI, for the usual reasons that progressive non-tech folks are against AI (environmental cost especially from what she's said).

            Maybe the difference is that, last I checked, my brother is politically right-leaning at least, while my sister is progressive.

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            I was too quick to jump in with my one anecdote, which is insignificant compared to actual studies which, as the author of the quoted post pointed out, do exist.

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              @FreakyFwoof How do you feel about music-generating AI these days? You seemed to be OK with it some months ago. Not wanting to argue, just curious.

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              • matt@toot.cafeM matt@toot.cafe

                On the other hand, my sister, who also works outside of big tech (as a graphic designer), is, last I checked, broadly anti-AI, for the usual reasons that progressive non-tech folks are against AI (environmental cost especially from what she's said).

                Maybe the difference is that, last I checked, my brother is politically right-leaning at least, while my sister is progressive.

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                @matt This doesn’t have much to do with your post, but I find it a bit ironic that being progressive seems to be associated with being against AI. To be clear, I’m not saying whether people should or shouldn’t be; I just find some of our labels of things to be interesting, and I’m not sure I always know what they mean. Being opposed to AI or cautious about it feels like a (small-c) conservative position to me. I find it similarly weird that the Trump coalition seems to include blue-collar white people who are anxious about social change as well as tech CEOs and investors who thought that the Biden administration was overly regulating crypto and AI.

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