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  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

    Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

    Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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    @zackwhittaker it is a fundamental right! They’re the only big tech company that doesn’t seem to poorly handle personal data. Are Google and Meta any better when it comes to data privacy?

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    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

      Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

      Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

      Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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      @zackwhittaker At the top, the only driver is "line go up".

      Screw those principles, if the line doesn't go up they have other ones in a filling cabinet.

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      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

        Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

        Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

        Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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        @zackwhittaker Apple is a corporation and as such, doesn't have a stance, that was a marketing slogan. No more.

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        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

          Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

          Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

          Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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          @zackwhittaker 😖 Ugh! I'm so tired of this! Why?! We could have nice things!

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          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

            Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

            Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

            Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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            @zackwhittaker Like all other companies they mean the privacy of their paying customers.

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            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

              Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

              Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

              Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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              @zackwhittaker It changed my thinking about Vision Pro (which was somewhere along the lines of "useless and expensive") when I heard from blind people who were able to use it to cook from a recipe. I can't read the article -- not a Bloomberg subscriber. However, I can imagine ways that this could work with privacy preservation: E.g., if facial recognition only worked for people in mutual contact lists. That might be really helpful as an assistive device? I am not saying "give Apple the benefit of the doubt." They burned that when they banned the ICE reporting apps. But I can think of a way that it could work and respect privacy.

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              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                @zackwhittaker They were lying?

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                • craigstuntz@discuss.systemsC craigstuntz@discuss.systems

                  @zackwhittaker It changed my thinking about Vision Pro (which was somewhere along the lines of "useless and expensive") when I heard from blind people who were able to use it to cook from a recipe. I can't read the article -- not a Bloomberg subscriber. However, I can imagine ways that this could work with privacy preservation: E.g., if facial recognition only worked for people in mutual contact lists. That might be really helpful as an assistive device? I am not saying "give Apple the benefit of the doubt." They burned that when they banned the ICE reporting apps. But I can think of a way that it could work and respect privacy.

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                  @CraigStuntz @zackwhittaker That's the sort of thing I was working on when Glass first came out.

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                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                    Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                    Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                    @zackwhittaker Jesus Jobs has long passed away, so no more rights to the peasants.

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                    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                      Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                      Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                      Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                      @zackwhittaker I am quite sure they will uphold their most cherished value, over-profiting from fools, higher than other, alleged values or principles.

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                      • bh@suarez.socialB bh@suarez.social

                        @zackwhittaker it is a fundamental right! They’re the only big tech company that doesn’t seem to poorly handle personal data. Are Google and Meta any better when it comes to data privacy?

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                        @bh @zackwhittaker With Apple squarely on the US government's side, those days are clearly over.

                        The Apple you see today is not the Apple you saw years ago.

                        They're all in to authoritarism and even fascism.

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                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                          Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                          Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                          Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                          @zackwhittaker unpopular opinion: Apple had that stance only because it's a market differentiator + they did not have the data analytics do otherwise.

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                          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                            Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                            Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                            Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                            @zackwhittaker Apple: “Your privacy is important to us. We want to find out what you are trying to be private about.”

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                            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                              Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                              Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                              Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                              @zackwhittaker we need another phone os and more phone providers

                              Aka real competition

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                              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                                Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                                Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                                @zackwhittaker @briankrebs “graph must always go up and to the right” eventually seems to trump any notion of looking out for the interests of your customers or the public at large. See also Google dropping “don’t be evil”, because such an impossibly high standard was an unacceptable drag on their profitability, or something.

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                                • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                  Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                                  Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

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                                  @zackwhittaker "What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone. But that person's iGlasses? Haha bro, that data is *going* places."

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                                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                    Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                                    Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                                    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                                    @zackwhittaker I think the hypocrisy goes at least back to AirTags, which are actually awesome technology (I use them!) but which definitely create a public privacy hazard.

                                    The principle at play seems to be that Apple believes in privacy for Apple users. They don't really care about the implications for non-users and the public at large.

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                                    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                      Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                                      Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                                      Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                                      @zackwhittaker maybe they meant "we have a fundamental right to our user's privacy?"

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                                      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                        Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                                        Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                                        Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                                        @zackwhittaker
                                        @briankrebs

                                        It's squared by the always superlative and overriding mantra that "profit is a fundamental Corporate/shareholder right" ...

                                        🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤡🤡🫏🫏🖕🖕💩💩

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                                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                          Apple reportedly working on creepware, aka surveillance glasses and other AI-enabled always-on devices.

                                          Not sure how Apple squares these products with its long-standing stance that, "Privacy is a fundamental human right."

                                          Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                                          @zackwhittaker mostly marketing with some truth to it but of which a mostly western marketing campaign in china they went belly up on the privacy issue there. They dont care there.

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