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  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

    This is sad 😢

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    The discussions are heated ...

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    • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

      The discussions are heated ...

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      #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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      An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

      We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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      It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

      In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

      In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

      Goodbye, #Firefox.

      #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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      • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

        #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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        An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

        We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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        It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

        In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

        In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

        Goodbye, #Firefox.

        #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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        @dazo I need to see that smarmy CEO out in the street with a Banker's box full of his shit before I reconsider Firefox as a web browser again.

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        • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

          @dazo I need to see that smarmy CEO out in the street with a Banker's box full of his shit before I reconsider Firefox as a web browser again.

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          @theorangetheme @dazo The question is what to use other than Firefox forks. Waterfox and Librewolf work fine, on Android I use Fennec and Waterfox. Chromium based browsers aren't much better and I don't trust Brave either.

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          • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

            This is sad 😢

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            @dazo now this is just ridiculous

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            • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

              #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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              An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

              We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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              It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

              In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

              In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

              Goodbye, #Firefox.

              #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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              @dazo it’s like they don’t understand that people moved away from Chrome for a reason. By actively making themselves more like Google they are removing the incentive to move from Chrome to Firefox. And incentivizing moving away from Firefox to literally anything else. Their user base consists almost entirely of people who are willing to change browsers. Not understanding that will cost them. Probably not as much as it should.

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              • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                Goodbye, #Firefox.

                #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                @dazo Sure MozGoogle may fall but forks will live on.

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                • graves501@fosstodon.orgG graves501@fosstodon.org

                  @theorangetheme @dazo The question is what to use other than Firefox forks. Waterfox and Librewolf work fine, on Android I use Fennec and Waterfox. Chromium based browsers aren't much better and I don't trust Brave either.

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                  @graves501 @theorangetheme @dazo

                  I went all-in on @zenbrowser and am really loving it. Waterfox on my phone for now.

                  Anything using Chromium is a non-option to me. Sure, let's just further cement Google's control of web standards. 😛

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                  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                    #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                    An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

                    We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                    It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                    In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                    In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                    Goodbye, #Firefox.

                    #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                    @dazo They aren't doing themselves any favors when they have an employee chime into the discussion claiming that giving themselves "a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use" the information you upload or input through the browser is necessary for things like internet searches to work.

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                    • graves501@fosstodon.orgG graves501@fosstodon.org

                      @theorangetheme @dazo The question is what to use other than Firefox forks. Waterfox and Librewolf work fine, on Android I use Fennec and Waterfox. Chromium based browsers aren't much better and I don't trust Brave either.

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                      @graves501 @dazo I'm okay with Firefox forks if they're not run by sociopaths. Realistically, that's probably the best we can do for now.

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                      • edcates@mastodon.socialE edcates@mastodon.social

                        @graves501 @theorangetheme @dazo

                        I went all-in on @zenbrowser and am really loving it. Waterfox on my phone for now.

                        Anything using Chromium is a non-option to me. Sure, let's just further cement Google's control of web standards. 😛

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                        @EdCates @graves501 @theorangetheme

                        Agreed! We don't need to repeat the Internet Explorer fiasco.

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                        • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                          @EdCates @graves501 @theorangetheme

                          Agreed! We don't need to repeat the Internet Explorer fiasco.

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                          @dazo @graves501 @theorangetheme

                          Exactly! It's why Vivaldi fans give me a headache.

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                          • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                            #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                            An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

                            We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                            It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                            In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                            In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                            Goodbye, #Firefox.

                            #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                            @dazo Once profit becomes the goal, principles go out the window. Even Google started off with "Don't be evil."

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                            • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                              #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                              An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

                              We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                              It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                              In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                              In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                              Goodbye, #Firefox.

                              #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                              @dazo so a depressing game to play is watching network traffic when Firefox starts. It pings a dozen servers unnecessarily. Luckily forks are OK and firejail & open snitch are very useful

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                              • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                                #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                                An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

                                We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                                It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                                In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                                In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                                Goodbye, #Firefox.

                                #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                                @dazo Don't walk, Run from FireFox!

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                                • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                                  #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                                  We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                                  It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                                  In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                                  In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                                  Goodbye, #Firefox.

                                  #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                                  @dazo Getting paid so much to put out that crap is so outrageous.

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                                  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                                    #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                                    An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

                                    We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

                                    favicon

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                                    It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                                    In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                                    In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                                    Goodbye, #Firefox.

                                    #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                                    @dazo for the record, that was a year ago.

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                                    • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                                      This is sad 😢

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                                      @dazo Why look at a change from Feb 25, 2025 (exactly a year ago)? Have you looked at the current page? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/

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                                        This is sad 😢

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                                        @dazo not a good sign

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                                        • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                                          #Mozilla has lost their ground and is now in a free fall into a sinkhole. I doubt they'll ever get out if this again unless they do a 180-turn within the coming days. Mozilla has lost a lot of trust and credibility over the last couple of years. This accelerates that distrust even more.

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                                          An update on our terms of use | The Mozilla Blog

                                          We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern. With that in mind, we’re updating the language to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how Mozilla interacts with user data.

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                                          It looks promising, until you hit the last paragraph (my highlight)

                                          In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners, including our optional ads on New Tab and providing sponsored suggestions in the search bar. We set all of this out in our privacy notice. Whenever we share data with our partners, we put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share is stripped of potentially identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

                                          In my book, that's indirectly selling data.

                                          Goodbye, #Firefox.

                                          #privacy #ads #foss #opensource #web

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                                          @dazo It's been almost a year since i first saw this meme, and sadly this still holds true today.

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