No, Cadbury Hasn’t ‘Removed Easter’ From Easter Eggs.
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@afewbugs There's an uproar about that..? Do you have a link please? I know one of the people behind the new labels and I think he might be interested...
@seabass I'll ask my wife, it was shared on a local Facebook group to massive outrage and she gave me a dramatic reading of the most ridiculous comments
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How does anyone live in the US or the UK as a Christian and manage to feel oppressed?
I say this as a Christian.
But then they think that the oppression is going to be something oblique and subtile? Which only shows a total lack of imagination or experience with religious oppression.
Which is happening now to Muslims and to Jewish people in both the US and UK.
Meanwhile I can start talking about Jesus at any moment and nobody cares.
@futurebird @afewbugs Projection, and I suspect some of that is appropriation directly from the Jewish community, at least in the US. I wonder at times if it was astroturfed in the US and exported to the UK via Murdoch media. I don’t think Christian oppression had been a dominant narrative for several centuries - except in missionary communities, which one will notice are a big deal in evangelicalism.
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@ravenbait @wav3ydave @afewbugs Very funny thing there... My LinkedIn feed looks a lot like my Fediverse feed, if very slightly more narrowly focused. Despite the majority of my LinkedIn connections being people I've worked with, what I see there are anti-genocide and anti-fascist posts, public health posts. Only rarely anything else.
Here I get to see more animals and crafts, more technology and geekiness. More general fun in addition to entirely reasonable reactions of horror. But a quick glance shows that the algorithm there isn't wildly far off of my self-selection here, despite the connections there being significantly more numerous.
I'm far happier here. I feel like I can be myself more.
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@afewbugs I once had a train seat across from a table of white middle aged men who were chatting loudly and I was like "aw man here we go" but they got talking about women's football and all agreed that they preferred it to the men's because the quality of play was so much higher.
It's nice when people don't live down to stereotypes.
@bright_helpings I had a similar experience in a previous job, working in an office of male engineers. One of them got talking about how he'd picked his wife up after a concert at the weekend, and they had agreed to meet in a pub near the venue. He got there early and only realised the pub was a gay bar. So he said he started worrying that gay men would see him on his own and flirt with him. And I was sitting there dreading what was coming next.
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No, Cadbury Hasn’t ‘Removed Easter’ From Easter Eggs.
No one's removing the word "Easter" from packaging, chocolate eggs have nothing to do with Christianity in any case, and some very sinister groups are trying to convince us all that Muslims are offended by much loved British traditions and trying to get them banned.
No, Cadbury Hasn’t ‘Removed Easter’ From Easter Eggs
Chocolate eggs have never been consistently labelled with the word ‘Easter’, so why does this claim keep resurfacing?
(monkdebunks.substack.com)
@afewbugs The other day one of my kids told me Ostara is when Spring returns, and Easter is when Jesus comes back as a bunny.
She's young enough that I really don't know if she was pulling my leg or not. Her delivery was straight. Anyway, I accepted her explanation as valid.
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@bright_helpings I had a similar experience in a previous job, working in an office of male engineers. One of them got talking about how he'd picked his wife up after a concert at the weekend, and they had agreed to meet in a pub near the venue. He got there early and only realised the pub was a gay bar. So he said he started worrying that gay men would see him on his own and flirt with him. And I was sitting there dreading what was coming next.
@bright_helpings but then he said that no one hit on him, and after a while he started feeling really self conscious and worrying he was ugly because no one had. So he started smiling at random men, and by the time his wife turned up one had come over and chatted to him so he felt better
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It's like when the UK women's team did so well in the World Cup, and a bunch of miserable old gits started mithering on about how women's football wasn't real football. And meanwhile my Dad was delighted that now there was twice as much football on TV as there used to be. Not only was he not making a nuisance of himself whingeing on Facebook, he was actually happier. Almost like actually embracing something a bit new and a bit different is actually a nicer way to live.
@afewbugs TIL mithering. I like it.
But yes that. It’s an extra thing. You might like it. Or not, then simply keep watching the old thing that nobody took away.
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@bright_helpings but then he said that no one hit on him, and after a while he started feeling really self conscious and worrying he was ugly because no one had. So he started smiling at random men, and by the time his wife turned up one had come over and chatted to him so he felt better
@afewbugs @bright_helpings
Heh, that's a little bit adorable! -
It's like the uproar about Tesco replacing barcodes with QR codes, as if a change to the details of the stock management system used by a supermarket has any impact whatsoever on the lives of anyone who doesn't work in Tesco's logistics department. But suddenly some rightwing hack vomits up a thinkpiece about how QR codes are woke and suddenly everyone's waxing nostalgic about how the play of sunlight on the black and white stripes of a barcode takes them back to happy childhood afternoons shopping for salad cream and pickled eggs with their dear departed grandmother.
@afewbugs I remember a while back that there was similar fuss because sainsbury’s and a few others switched to a different sort of packaging for minced beef. (Softer plastic so presumably less waste.)
People were calling it disgusting and unnatural. Idk, if you’re uncomfortable with meat I can sympathise but I don’t think it’s the packaging to blame here.
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It's like the uproar about Tesco replacing barcodes with QR codes, as if a change to the details of the stock management system used by a supermarket has any impact whatsoever on the lives of anyone who doesn't work in Tesco's logistics department. But suddenly some rightwing hack vomits up a thinkpiece about how QR codes are woke and suddenly everyone's waxing nostalgic about how the play of sunlight on the black and white stripes of a barcode takes them back to happy childhood afternoons shopping for salad cream and pickled eggs with their dear departed grandmother.
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@afewbugs I once had a train seat across from a table of white middle aged men who were chatting loudly and I was like "aw man here we go" but they got talking about women's football and all agreed that they preferred it to the men's because the quality of play was so much higher.
It's nice when people don't live down to stereotypes.
@bright_helpings @afewbugs
I once worked on a project for live poker games.
What made the chat feature worthwhile was the Ladies event. The play was hot and the live chat was a lot of fun, we drove a bunch of attention that the women's tables don't usually get, and people really enjoyed it.
(Aside, one white dude pro gambler entered anticipating an easy win. Half the chat for the first couple hands was him being mocked, then he got spanked and busted out. Twice.). -
No, Cadbury Hasn’t ‘Removed Easter’ From Easter Eggs.
No one's removing the word "Easter" from packaging, chocolate eggs have nothing to do with Christianity in any case, and some very sinister groups are trying to convince us all that Muslims are offended by much loved British traditions and trying to get them banned.
No, Cadbury Hasn’t ‘Removed Easter’ From Easter Eggs
Chocolate eggs have never been consistently labelled with the word ‘Easter’, so why does this claim keep resurfacing?
(monkdebunks.substack.com)
Come on - it only says "Easter" a measley 17 times on the M&S display. It is clearly an attack on christianity. Just look at the number of times easter eggs are mentioned in the bible.
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How does anyone live in the US or the UK as a Christian and manage to feel oppressed?
I say this as a Christian.
But then they think that the oppression is going to be something oblique and subtile? Which only shows a total lack of imagination or experience with religious oppression.
Which is happening now to Muslims and to Jewish people in both the US and UK.
Meanwhile I can start talking about Jesus at any moment and nobody cares.
@futurebird @afewbugs Christianity fetishises being oppressed. Half of the Bible is about being a persecuted minority religion, and the obsession with the martyrdom of saints until the Reformation (until the present day for the Catholics) didn't help either.
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It's like when the UK women's team did so well in the World Cup, and a bunch of miserable old gits started mithering on about how women's football wasn't real football. And meanwhile my Dad was delighted that now there was twice as much football on TV as there used to be. Not only was he not making a nuisance of himself whingeing on Facebook, he was actually happier. Almost like actually embracing something a bit new and a bit different is actually a nicer way to live.
@afewbugs I had a boss who was a huge women’s ‘soccer’ fan, and preferred it to the men’s.
“Well, they’re easier on the eyes, aren’t they?” he said.
I felt the reverse, of course, but I couldn’t really argue the principle involved.
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It's like the uproar about Tesco replacing barcodes with QR codes, as if a change to the details of the stock management system used by a supermarket has any impact whatsoever on the lives of anyone who doesn't work in Tesco's logistics department. But suddenly some rightwing hack vomits up a thinkpiece about how QR codes are woke and suddenly everyone's waxing nostalgic about how the play of sunlight on the black and white stripes of a barcode takes them back to happy childhood afternoons shopping for salad cream and pickled eggs with their dear departed grandmother.
But yes, in conclusion everyone's life would be better if we understood that everything new isn't a threat.
Except with software. Then it probably is.
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@ravenbait @wav3ydave @afewbugs There's definitely a concern with LinkedIn about what employers might think, but I'd come to the "do you know what you world have done during the Holocaust?" realization and it made it hard to burble on about how great everything is, and I skewed from the environmental and technology stuff I'd post before to posting about the genocide and the attack on DEI and ICE crimes and so forth.
I moderate what I say and never boost attacks, never make blanket condemnations, but I post some uncomfortable stuff there. I'm sure I've limited career options, but my soul feels easy -I'm definitely trying to be part of the solution. And I don't want to work for a place that can look at some of the stuff that's happening, shrug, and go back to planning quarterly growth strategy.
(I post about doughnut economics sometimes, re: quarterly growth and the popular illusion that endless economic growth is somehow allowed by the laws of physics.)
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It's like the uproar about Tesco replacing barcodes with QR codes, as if a change to the details of the stock management system used by a supermarket has any impact whatsoever on the lives of anyone who doesn't work in Tesco's logistics department. But suddenly some rightwing hack vomits up a thinkpiece about how QR codes are woke and suddenly everyone's waxing nostalgic about how the play of sunlight on the black and white stripes of a barcode takes them back to happy childhood afternoons shopping for salad cream and pickled eggs with their dear departed grandmother.
@afewbugs@social.coop That would absolutely play havoc with the livelihood of barcode battler players -
@afewbugs I once had a train seat across from a table of white middle aged men who were chatting loudly and I was like "aw man here we go" but they got talking about women's football and all agreed that they preferred it to the men's because the quality of play was so much higher.
It's nice when people don't live down to stereotypes.
they were still talking too loudly.
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