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So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    @ariarhythmic not fully true. Microsoft and Google do have the cash. Not from "AI" revenue but from all their other sources.

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    @tante Indeed, but it's probably safe to assume part of that recklessness in spending is caused by their jump in valuation from the bubble

    It's stupid anyway, though, I don't see how that 100,000$ given to a YouTuber could provide a substantial return on investment

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    • holgertdittmann@ruhr.socialH holgertdittmann@ruhr.social

      @tante Meanwhile, IBM is already marketing „quantum-enabled AI“. Because executives from lots of companies believe they want it.

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      @HolgerTDittmann @tante '79% of executives say AI will significantly contribute to their revenue by 2030, but only 24% can clearly see where that revenue will come from.'

      Never have I read a clearer illustration of why the easiest way for large companies to immediately cut costs for zero downside would be to fire their executives.

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      • grouchybeast@mastodon.socialG grouchybeast@mastodon.social

        @HolgerTDittmann @tante '79% of executives say AI will significantly contribute to their revenue by 2030, but only 24% can clearly see where that revenue will come from.'

        Never have I read a clearer illustration of why the easiest way for large companies to immediately cut costs for zero downside would be to fire their executives.

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        @HolgerTDittmann @tante '59% of executives say quantum-enabled AI will transform their industry by 2030'.

        Jesus Christ.

        I have a new business plan. I'm going to offer a service where I will survey a company's executives to find these people, and then personally hand them a P45. My rates will be low because my job satisfaction will be immense.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

          That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

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          But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

          "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
          “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

          #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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          @tante People have to believe in a product for it to be profitable. Influencers have a lot of impact on society. 600k is a small price for advertising some development that has cost billions.

          The worst thing that could happen for them is that ai gets rejected like the mini-disc.

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          • mndflayr@metalhead.clubM mndflayr@metalhead.club

            @tante

            Damn. What am I doing wrong?

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            @mndflayr @tante

            You have morals and standards. 😉

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            • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

              @tante Indeed, but it's probably safe to assume part of that recklessness in spending is caused by their jump in valuation from the bubble

              It's stupid anyway, though, I don't see how that 100,000$ given to a YouTuber could provide a substantial return on investment

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              @ariarhythmic @tante

              I think the issue is you are applying logic to the situation.

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              • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                @ariarhythmic @tante

                I think the issue is you are applying logic to the situation.

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                @sauc3 @tante ahahaha fair point

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                  That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                  Access Denied

                  favicon

                  (www.cnbc.com)

                  But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                  "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                  “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                  #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                  @tante they threw too much money pushing it into everything that didn't need any AI. Take Copilot in Windows, or in Office: just unnecessary.

                  But the tools for software development, i can tell you as a software engineer, that this stuff just revolutionized our field completely. It's a tectonic activity that just changed it for good. Those who deny it are those who still haven't used it seriously and in 2-3 years will be at risk, if they don't start now.

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    @ariarhythmic not fully true. Microsoft and Google do have the cash. Not from "AI" revenue but from all their other sources.

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                    @tante @ariarhythmic And that's the worrisome part for me. It's almost a given that most of these AI companies won't survive because they aren't profitable. But Microsoft and Google don't necessary need it to be profitable. In the end, AI will likely stick around and be controlled by one a few companies. Doesn't sound worrisome at all...

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                    • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                      @sauc3 @tante ahahaha fair point

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                      @ariarhythmic @tante

                      'cuz you are absolutely right, what they are doing is stupid as hell. They are ignoring all the warning klaxons going off that it seems like everyone else is very aware of, but I guess that's why they are super genius CEOs and we are just regular fools and normies.

                      I just hold out hope that when the bubble bursts, it'll take out companies like Microslop and Oracle. They'll probably get bailed out, but it is fun to dream of a world without Microsoft!

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                      • alebaffa2@famichiki.jpA alebaffa2@famichiki.jp

                        @tante they threw too much money pushing it into everything that didn't need any AI. Take Copilot in Windows, or in Office: just unnecessary.

                        But the tools for software development, i can tell you as a software engineer, that this stuff just revolutionized our field completely. It's a tectonic activity that just changed it for good. Those who deny it are those who still haven't used it seriously and in 2-3 years will be at risk, if they don't start now.

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                        @alebaffa2 @tante Sorry, your scare tactics simply don't work on us. "You're at risk if you don't start now" is pure hype.

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                          That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                          Access Denied

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                          (www.cnbc.com)

                          But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                          "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                          “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                          #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                          @tante Street vendors of hair growers. Never gets old.

                          And who copes with all the externalities? Browers are doing proof of work calculations to access many websites. That's more energy consumption added.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                            That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                            Access Denied

                            favicon

                            (www.cnbc.com)

                            But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                            "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                            “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                            #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                            @tante one wonders why wouldn't they spin gen ai to market itself?

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                              That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                              Access Denied

                              favicon

                              (www.cnbc.com)

                              But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                              "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                              “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                              #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                              @tante Avian Intelligence "is the future", I'm told, which is part of the reason why I'm on a #deGoogled Fairphone 4 and Linux, waiting to see if the bubble bursts, and whether we get to see any pretty colours in the moment before it does.

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                                That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                                Access Denied

                                favicon

                                (www.cnbc.com)

                                But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                                "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                                “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                                #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                                @tante

                                Oh, so this is why they've been firing everyone.

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                                • jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ jaredwhite@indieweb.social

                                  @alebaffa2 @tante Sorry, your scare tactics simply don't work on us. "You're at risk if you don't start now" is pure hype.

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                                  @jaredwhite @tante i hope it will be so too.

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                                  • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                                    @tante Indeed, but it's probably safe to assume part of that recklessness in spending is caused by their jump in valuation from the bubble

                                    It's stupid anyway, though, I don't see how that 100,000$ given to a YouTuber could provide a substantial return on investment

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                                    @ariarhythmic @tante

                                    Compared to the running costs of AI alone, $100k is small change.

                                    Compared to the anticipated(!) revenue, it's practically free advertising.

                                    They should he paying much *more* according to their infallible business logic.

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                                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                      So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                                      That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                                      Access Denied

                                      favicon

                                      (www.cnbc.com)

                                      But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                                      "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                                      “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                                      #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                                      Great point! If AI was truly inevitable and everyone loved it, why spend $500K per influencer to convince people?

                                      Real value sells itself. This feels like hype-driven marketing, not organic adoption.

                                      The bubble signs are there. 💭

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        So. Everybody knows that "AI" is the future and inevitable and everyone loves it.

                                        That is why Microsoft and Google are paying influencers between 400K and 600K to sell their AI products:

                                        Access Denied

                                        favicon

                                        (www.cnbc.com)

                                        But hey, those are very serious businesses, they must have done their research and run their cost-benefit analyses to ensure they spend their money wisely, right? Quote:

                                        "Creators can charge up to $100,000 per post, Eckstein said.
                                        “Some of these bigger companies have so much money to spend,” he said, “that they don’t care to negotiate.”"

                                        #totallyNotABubble #dontsayAIisabubble

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                                        @tante I think in order for this observation to have any meaning you'd have at the very least to contrast the amount spent on marketing with the amount spent on product development and compare to other industries/endeavors. numbers mean little without context.

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                                        • grouchybeast@mastodon.socialG grouchybeast@mastodon.social

                                          @HolgerTDittmann @tante '59% of executives say quantum-enabled AI will transform their industry by 2030'.

                                          Jesus Christ.

                                          I have a new business plan. I'm going to offer a service where I will survey a company's executives to find these people, and then personally hand them a P45. My rates will be low because my job satisfaction will be immense.

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                                          @Grouchybeast @HolgerTDittmann @tante with a low rate you‘ll never get hired for this

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