Trying to narrow down summer holiday options.
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@jon @Ruth_Mottram
So we have done Slovenia with a car a few times and I don’t know how well bus/train options may serve but here’s an outline…
Ljubljana 3 days no car necessary
Transfer to Piran, tour Postojna caves (Slovenia’s underground railway!) en route
Piran - slat flats and pans, city walls, seafood, cold water sea
Transfer through Gorica/Gorizia to Goriška Brda - wine country and walking - or go across Vršič Pass
Then to Kransjka Gora
Skip Bled.@rmartinnielsen @Ruth_Mottram buses between the places without railways are useable. Timetables a bit thin sometimes, but definitely better than French buses!
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Trying to narrow down summer holiday options. Family travel by train to a self catering holiday destination where swimming, cycling hiking and climbing is possible (as is sitting by the water with a pile of books) lots of fresh air and nature a must. Cities less important. What would you choose (feel free to comment why and be more specific on destination!):
@Ruth_Mottram Portugal, around Porto - the food is excellent (custard tarts, mmmm), the people are friendly and helpful, and the scenery is lovely.
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@Urban_Hermit @Ruth_Mottram Here's the moment he said yes. Their friend took the photo not realizing what was happening.

@msbellows @Urban_Hermit @Ruth_Mottram Depending on when in summer, France is nice, but be aware that a lot of the country goes to the south for its holidays for the whole of August, which can restrict lots of normal life, and makes the South prohibitively expensive. But there are nice parts in Normandy, Brittany and down the West Coast. And amazing things to see like the rows of prehistoric standing stones in Carnac. Don't bother with any of the normal tourist areas.
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@jon @Ruth_Mottram
So we have done Slovenia with a car a few times and I don’t know how well bus/train options may serve but here’s an outline…
Ljubljana 3 days no car necessary
Transfer to Piran, tour Postojna caves (Slovenia’s underground railway!) en route
Piran - slat flats and pans, city walls, seafood, cold water sea
Transfer through Gorica/Gorizia to Goriška Brda - wine country and walking - or go across Vršič Pass
Then to Kransjka Gora
Skip Bled.@rmartinnielsen @jon @Ruth_Mottram Well, Lake Bled is beautiful, nice to see. (On the other hand, yes, it looks like the photos, so there is no element of surprise as such.)
No need to stay there overnight or longer, can easily be visited in a day, for instance while transferring from Austria to Ljubljana, if overnighting in Villach. For example as in the screenshot.

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