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How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @ben Ah, I confused adafruit with arduino. (Adjacent customer space.)

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    @cstross @ben
    Yes, though Adafruit seems to have lost the plot some time ago.

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    • driusan@doomscroller.socialD driusan@doomscroller.social

      @cstross@wandering.shop

      Electricians: "look at this wiring.. thing.. gen AI showed me it's got so many things wrong if you even look at it you will die guaranteed."
      Adafruit: "good news we used gen AI to design a piece of electronics you can buy from us and play with!"

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      @driusan See also:

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      • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

        @cstross @adafruit I tried some ECAD-specific AI tools at work last week, and they perform really poorly. They can’t even do symbols right, and realistically the hard and time-consuming part is the footprint anyway, not the symbol.

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        @jaseg @cstross @adafruit And lets not forget: even if the LLM were able to "do it right", the price al of us pay for it is still too damn high (society, ethics, climate, water...).

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        • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

          @cstross @adafruit For context, at least the symbol shown on screen does not look like something I’d accept quality wise for a library symbol. It has inconsistent pin spacing, the power pins should be on the top/bottom edges, for this kind of part the EP and GND pins should be stacked, the GND pin should be on grid, and the I2C pins should be on the left side of the symbol to preserve reading direction.

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          @jaseg @cstross @adafruit yeah, this doesn't even meet my own low standards for personal projects, let alone something I wouldn't reject if the part librarian at work tried to pass it off to me.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            RE: https://fosstodon.org/@adafruit/116071513892549636

            How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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            @cstross
            This makes me sad. It's not the only thing that does, but it is one.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              RE: https://fosstodon.org/@adafruit/116071513892549636

              How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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              @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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              • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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                @adafruit @cstross

                Clearly a mixup with the Arduino situation. Undoubtedly he'll correct it, but timezones may preclude it today.

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                • cazabon@mindly.socialC cazabon@mindly.social

                  @adafruit @cstross

                  Clearly a mixup with the Arduino situation. Undoubtedly he'll correct it, but timezones may preclude it today.

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                  @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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                  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                    @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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                    @adafruit @cstross > decided to target Limor since she shared it
                    i wonder how he would have known who shared it or that you are a woman. seems like overreaction and bad spirit both ways
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                    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                      @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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                      @adafruit @cazabon @cstross I gotta say I'm disappointed in @cstross for this. I mean it's one thing to be against AI, it's another to sabotage a small industry business like this.

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                      • dabeaz@mastodon.socialD dabeaz@mastodon.social

                        @Oggie @cstross My dog made two poops on one walk the other day.

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                        @dabeaz @Oggie @cstross
                        My dog dropped an almost perfect 3D print of the poop emoji a couple of years ago. I took a few photos (obviously) but never posted them online at the time.

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                        • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                          @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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                          @adafruit @cstross I saw the adafruit post, and the people telling you to get out because of using llm's before the bad post from cstross. In his thread someone pointed out he confused Arduino & Adafruit, and he confirmed but hasn't updated the main post. Using an llm and getting push-back on it was all you though. #noai

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                          • sablebadger@dice.campS sablebadger@dice.camp

                            @adafruit @cazabon @cstross I gotta say I'm disappointed in @cstross for this. I mean it's one thing to be against AI, it's another to sabotage a small industry business like this.

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                            @Sablebadger @adafruit @cstross

                            It's not "sabotage", it's a simple mistake/confusion that literally anyone could make. "Small electronics company popular with hobbyists that starts with 'A' which sold out to Qualcomm and started bragging about ``AI''" is pretty easy to mix up with "*Other* small electronics company popular with hobbyists that starts with 'A' which started bragging about ``AI''" . Hell, I could have made that mistake myself.

                            So ya, he confused one company's actions with another similarly-named, same-industry company's actions. He didn't torpedo your zeppelin.

                            And if Adafruit wants to start using "AI" (LLM), then that's fine. But a lot of us electronics hobbyists will want to have absolutely nothing to do with you from that point on.

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                              @ptorrone @Sablebadger @cstross @adafruit

                              If you think Charles Stross is anti-women or otherwise misogynist, boy have you clocked him wrong. Try reading his stuff.

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                              • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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                                @adafruit @cstross so much respect and love Limor!!

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                                • cazabon@mindly.socialC cazabon@mindly.social

                                  @ptorrone @Sablebadger @cstross @adafruit

                                  If you think Charles Stross is anti-women or otherwise misogynist, boy have you clocked him wrong. Try reading his stuff.

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                                  @cazabon @ptorrone @cstross @adafruit I do read his stuff, that's why I'm sorry disappointed by his actions.

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                                  • cazabon@mindly.socialC cazabon@mindly.social

                                    @Sablebadger @adafruit @cstross

                                    It's not "sabotage", it's a simple mistake/confusion that literally anyone could make. "Small electronics company popular with hobbyists that starts with 'A' which sold out to Qualcomm and started bragging about ``AI''" is pretty easy to mix up with "*Other* small electronics company popular with hobbyists that starts with 'A' which started bragging about ``AI''" . Hell, I could have made that mistake myself.

                                    So ya, he confused one company's actions with another similarly-named, same-industry company's actions. He didn't torpedo your zeppelin.

                                    And if Adafruit wants to start using "AI" (LLM), then that's fine. But a lot of us electronics hobbyists will want to have absolutely nothing to do with you from that point on.

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                                    @cazabon @adafruit @cstross then why hasn't he walked it back if it was such a simple mistake...

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                                    • maaneeack@noc.socialM maaneeack@noc.social

                                      @adafruit @cstross I saw the adafruit post, and the people telling you to get out because of using llm's before the bad post from cstross. In his thread someone pointed out he confused Arduino & Adafruit, and he confirmed but hasn't updated the main post. Using an llm and getting push-back on it was all you though. #noai

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                                      @maaneeack @adafruit @cstross i understand disagreeing about ethical issues.

                                      I don’t get public humiliation and an attempt to erase everything Limor has done for aspiring nerds.

                                      The intolerance is intolerable.

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                                      • knowuh@mastodon.socialK knowuh@mastodon.social

                                        @maaneeack @adafruit @cstross i understand disagreeing about ethical issues.

                                        I don’t get public humiliation and an attempt to erase everything Limor has done for aspiring nerds.

                                        The intolerance is intolerable.

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                                        @knowuh @adafruit @cstross llms as they are now are antitechnology & antiknowledge. They're using stolen data to train, stealing power & water to run, and people's ability to think. It'd be one thing if adafruit used an llm they trained on data they owned, instead they used fucking gemini of all things.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          RE: https://fosstodon.org/@adafruit/116071513892549636

                                          How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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                                          @cstross

                                          Dude, you done messed up.

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