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  3. once in a while I see the 'unable to decrypt message' matrix meme come by and I can't help but wonder

once in a while I see the 'unable to decrypt message' matrix meme come by and I can't help but wonder

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    once in a while I see the 'unable to decrypt message' matrix meme come by and I can't help but wonder

    how

    I've used Matrix for years and the only times I've seen it is:
    1) when logging in without entering the end to end encryption password or alternatively approving the login from another device
    2) using a wonky client that doesn't support E2EE in an encrypted groupchat (and arguably there's no reason to encrypt groupchats to begin with)

    it just kinda sounds like a skill issue? ngl

    #Matrix

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    • anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzA anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz

      once in a while I see the 'unable to decrypt message' matrix meme come by and I can't help but wonder

      how

      I've used Matrix for years and the only times I've seen it is:
      1) when logging in without entering the end to end encryption password or alternatively approving the login from another device
      2) using a wonky client that doesn't support E2EE in an encrypted groupchat (and arguably there's no reason to encrypt groupchats to begin with)

      it just kinda sounds like a skill issue? ngl

      #Matrix

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      @anthropy I rarely see it as well (when I do see it, it seems to be federation lag), but I also know that I'm using a well-maintained public homeserver (not matrix.org and not selfhosted), interact with people on other well-maintained public or selfhosted homeservers (yes, I have like a few 50-ish-people encrypted rooms), and have just one session on Element... There's just too many variables and there's a luck factor in getting things right (especially for non-techies).

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        @anthropy I rarely see it as well (when I do see it, it seems to be federation lag), but I also know that I'm using a well-maintained public homeserver (not matrix.org and not selfhosted), interact with people on other well-maintained public or selfhosted homeservers (yes, I have like a few 50-ish-people encrypted rooms), and have just one session on Element... There's just too many variables and there's a luck factor in getting things right (especially for non-techies).

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        @austin hm, well if the Matrix peoples can get some tangible real world examples to debug with perhaps they could fix it.

        I do think that most (public) group chats should just be left decrypted though. I feel like that would solve a lot of the key federation issues, and there's no real reason to have these encrypted as they're essentially public anyway.

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