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  • graydon@canada.masto.hostG graydon@canada.masto.host

    @darkling Pretty much, yes.

    Only with greater scope; private equity firms don't have the ability of a sovereign to make things legal.

    (You can view everything since 1500 as a process of enclosure and not be hugely wrong in terms of economic history. Which is a detached way of saying "farming human lifespan".)

    @cstross

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    @graydon @darkling @cstross pretty grim point of view. Fundametally correct though (well, I give it inordinately high probability of being correct). And, as with many other general things, it came to different parts of the world at somewhat different times.

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    • militant_dilettante@mastodon.socialM militant_dilettante@mastodon.social

      @cstross a person, whose Telegram channel I'm reading since 2022, has this take: every known (far-)right politician contemporary to us is a scam, a fraud, a con artist, a grifter, and a thief. This heuristic more or less holds, with almost no exceptions.

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      @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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      • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

        @cstross let’s guess where the money came from. Taxpayers in Hungary or Russia

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        @Kierkegaanks @cstross wouldn't be surprised, if from Russia. The balding little man was, and is, very fond of spending our nation's endowment on such things.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Holy shit.

          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

          Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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          Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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          @cstross The main far-right party in Spain Vox is known for their ties and money coming from Hungary.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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            @cstross oh, yes, there might be some types of "true believers", and there might be some incredibly gullible persons. I think, we have both locally, within the so called "Z-movement" for example, and in other places.
            Liz-Who-Didn't-Outlive-A-Head-Of-Salad?

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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              @cstross @militant_dilettante If Liz wanted to remedy her public image, she could (pay whatever gatekeeping fee they charge and) join Reform, and then attend a public event with a Comic Relief nose-pincher.

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              • fgbjr@indieweb.socialF fgbjr@indieweb.social

                @cstross @militant_dilettante If Liz wanted to remedy her public image, she could (pay whatever gatekeeping fee they charge and) join Reform, and then attend a public event with a Comic Relief nose-pincher.

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                @fgbjr @cstross Would the Reform take her, though? Taking into account that her campaign slogans/punchlines would be something along the lines of "I WILL CUT YOU, SALAD!!"

                I might be using an incorrect grocery term for a leafy vegetable, a refrigerated specimen of which had outlasted Truss in her shooting-star-like career as a Prime Minister of the UK. English is obviously not my first language.

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                • fgbjr@indieweb.socialF fgbjr@indieweb.social

                  @cstross @militant_dilettante If Liz wanted to remedy her public image, she could (pay whatever gatekeeping fee they charge and) join Reform, and then attend a public event with a Comic Relief nose-pincher.

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                  @fgbjr @militant_dilettante Or she could flee to Dubai or Argentina and publish a tell-all autobiography explaining how she was recruited by the KGB in the upper fifth at Roundhay Grammar School in Leeds and groomed to destabilize the UK by her controller, one V. Putin. At which point … she wouldn't be *popular*, exactly, but her reputation for ineptitude and stupidity would instantly flip upside-down.

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                  • militant_dilettante@mastodon.socialM militant_dilettante@mastodon.social

                    @fgbjr @cstross Would the Reform take her, though? Taking into account that her campaign slogans/punchlines would be something along the lines of "I WILL CUT YOU, SALAD!!"

                    I might be using an incorrect grocery term for a leafy vegetable, a refrigerated specimen of which had outlasted Truss in her shooting-star-like career as a Prime Minister of the UK. English is obviously not my first language.

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                    @militant_dilettante @fgbjr It was a head of lettuce—which is indisputably a salad leaf. (Watery and tasteless at that.)

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      @fgbjr @militant_dilettante Or she could flee to Dubai or Argentina and publish a tell-all autobiography explaining how she was recruited by the KGB in the upper fifth at Roundhay Grammar School in Leeds and groomed to destabilize the UK by her controller, one V. Putin. At which point … she wouldn't be *popular*, exactly, but her reputation for ineptitude and stupidity would instantly flip upside-down.

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                      @cstross @fgbjr A good strategy, although there is one wrinkle in this storyline (do not tell Liz about it!). V.V.Putin was totally devoted to Germany, and Germanosphere. I doubt he knows even the basic conversational English.

                      On the other hand, all this East Germany, BRD business of the balding little man could have been one big ruse, and he might be secretly very language-proficient, and a huge UK-nerd (or a general British Isles nerd).

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                        @JdeBP @fgbjr @cstross Well, to chase the awkward and not very smart joke into its swampy shallow grave: does that mean that the "Reform U.K.K.K. Ltd." is firmly on the side of lettuce and other leafy greens?

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                          @JdeBP @fgbjr @cstross @militant_dilettante that’s a very low bar for sanity

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                          • militant_dilettante@mastodon.socialM militant_dilettante@mastodon.social

                            @cstross @fgbjr A good strategy, although there is one wrinkle in this storyline (do not tell Liz about it!). V.V.Putin was totally devoted to Germany, and Germanosphere. I doubt he knows even the basic conversational English.

                            On the other hand, all this East Germany, BRD business of the balding little man could have been one big ruse, and he might be secretly very language-proficient, and a huge UK-nerd (or a general British Isles nerd).

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                            @militant_dilettante @cstross @fgbjr I don't know how devoted Putin is to all things German. But having watched the broadcast of his speech, many years ago, to the Bundestag, I can confirm that his German is very good.

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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                              @cstross @militant_dilettante When AfD was formed, it was not a nazi party. Its founders were ordoliberal* economists whose idea was to withdraw Germany from the eurozone to alleviate the Greek debt crisis. (As a € state, Greece could no longer kill debt by devaluing the drachma. AfD figured German withdrawal would effectively devalue the euro.)
                              1/n

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                              • marcas@mastodon.ieM marcas@mastodon.ie

                                @cstross @militant_dilettante When AfD was formed, it was not a nazi party. Its founders were ordoliberal* economists whose idea was to withdraw Germany from the eurozone to alleviate the Greek debt crisis. (As a € state, Greece could no longer kill debt by devaluing the drachma. AfD figured German withdrawal would effectively devalue the euro.)
                                1/n

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                                @cstross @militant_dilettante These were pretty right-wing guys, but more from the business than from the blood & soil faction. They weren't nazis, and they were true believers.

                                They were all (including the founder) purged in about 10 seconds by the nazis and expelled from the party. One of the leaders of the (now) homophobic, economic-populist, xenophobic AfD is a lesbian ex-investment banker who lives in Switzerland with her Sri Lankan partner.
                                2/n

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                                • marcas@mastodon.ieM marcas@mastodon.ie

                                  @cstross @militant_dilettante These were pretty right-wing guys, but more from the business than from the blood & soil faction. They weren't nazis, and they were true believers.

                                  They were all (including the founder) purged in about 10 seconds by the nazis and expelled from the party. One of the leaders of the (now) homophobic, economic-populist, xenophobic AfD is a lesbian ex-investment banker who lives in Switzerland with her Sri Lankan partner.
                                  2/n

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                                  @cstross @militant_dilettante * Ordoliberals are not like liberals in the UK sense, let alone the American. They are spiritual heirs to the British ministers who refused to stop food exports from Ireland during the Famine because that would have violated the sacred laws of The Market.
                                  3/3

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                                  • militant_dilettante@mastodon.socialM militant_dilettante@mastodon.social

                                    @cstross a person, whose Telegram channel I'm reading since 2022, has this take: every known (far-)right politician contemporary to us is a scam, a fraud, a con artist, a grifter, and a thief. This heuristic more or less holds, with almost no exceptions.

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                                    @militant_dilettante @cstross I keep coming back to lack of empathy on this subject. People without empathy are born grifters. Elon Musk is clearly stated that he views empathy as a weakness. The thing that actually saves us, is that doing anything with the power they’ve managed to gain, governing, negotiating, requires an understanding of what the other parties involved want. And if you haven’t got empathy, you will never get that, and cannot execute your plans.

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                                    • marcas@mastodon.ieM marcas@mastodon.ie

                                      @cstross @militant_dilettante * Ordoliberals are not like liberals in the UK sense, let alone the American. They are spiritual heirs to the British ministers who refused to stop food exports from Ireland during the Famine because that would have violated the sacred laws of The Market.
                                      3/3

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                                      @marcas @cstross Thank you, that was informative and interesting.
                                      "Ordoliberals" sounds peculiar and funny in my language, because of all this staff that happened between the thing that later became my country, and the Golden Horde, the Ulus of Jochi, which in my language is pronounced as "orda".

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                                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                        @cstross

                                        Orban functioned as a conduit for Putin's foreign threat funding for years.

                                        Petrostate despots and oil oligarchs fund a lot of fascism globally.

                                        nytimes.com

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                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                                        Republicans & the Epstein Class cannot resist fossil fuel public corruption.

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                                        Konstantin Nikolaev—the Putin ally behind Mike Johnson campaign donation

                                        The Russian oligarch gave money to the Republican's 2018 congressional campaign via a U.S-based company in which he owned a majority.

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                                        The N.R.A. Spent $30 Million to Elect Trump. Was It Russian Money?

                                        Congressional Democrats, the F.B.I., and Robert Mueller want to know why Putin-tied oligarchs took such an interest in American gun ownership.

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                                        Vanity Fair (www.vanityfair.com)

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                                        @Npars01 @cstross

                                        Buy a tank for 5 million $
                                        or
                                        buy a politician for 50.000 $

                                        Eventually you get lucky and you get a country with tanks & planes & warships working for you in return for your cash...

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                                        • militant_dilettante@mastodon.socialM militant_dilettante@mastodon.social

                                          @cstross a person, whose Telegram channel I'm reading since 2022, has this take: every known (far-)right politician contemporary to us is a scam, a fraud, a con artist, a grifter, and a thief. This heuristic more or less holds, with almost no exceptions.

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                                          @militant_dilettante @cstross I wonder more often recently: shouldn’t ‚traitor‘ also be on that list? And some corresponding prosecution, ideally?

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