can someone explain to me why server motherboards are so fucking awful (it could also just be supermicro.
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i feel like my next step is, once again, foregoing any remote administration capacity the manufacturer may have allegedly put into the board and just set an IP camera pointing at the screen
@whitequark Get a JetKVM and use that?
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i feel like my next step is, once again, foregoing any remote administration capacity the manufacturer may have allegedly put into the board and just set an IP camera pointing at the screen
@whitequark do you happen to have access to a KVM like the nanokvm?
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@whitequark do you happen to have access to a KVM like the nanokvm?
@cadey no (although it is dawning on me why that specific product category exists)
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i like how half the responses to this are like "you haven't seen even half the ways in which these motherboards suck. you are like a little baby" and honestly i'm both impressed and scared
@whitequark Assuming the board is new enough and you manage to wake up IPMI, you might find out that using virtual media is locked behind a paywall (OTOH, this apparently only applies to HTML5 – if you use Java, virtual media supposedly works without needing to unlock it).
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@whitequark Assuming the board is new enough and you manage to wake up IPMI, you might find out that using virtual media is locked behind a paywall (OTOH, this apparently only applies to HTML5 – if you use Java, virtual media supposedly works without needing to unlock it).
@jernej__s what the ever living fuck
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@cadey no (although it is dawning on me why that specific product category exists)
@whitequark Yeah I've been meaning to pick some of them up, I'm also running into the kinds of problems where I realize whey they exist
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@whitequark do you happen to have access to a KVM like the nanokvm?
@cadey @whitequark I love how the janky things that I could theoretically do with an SBC, a peripheral or two, and free software are actual products that I can buy instead of cobbling together like a mad person
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@whitequark Yeah I've been meaning to pick some of them up, I'm also running into the kinds of problems where I realize whey they exist
@cadey @whitequark we have a JetKVM and it's pretty great. Pikvm also exists.
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@cadey @whitequark we have a JetKVM and it's pretty great. Pikvm also exists.
@cadey @whitequark I did up https://www.printables.com/model/1385674-jetkvm-525-flush-mount-v13 to mount our JetKVM. Major downside is that you need to loop-cable the video (and maybe others).
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@cadey no (although it is dawning on me why that specific product category exists)
@whitequark @cadey we had some good luck with PiKVM over here. Better than those tiny MCU based solutions so far. After setting it up the FS can be set to read only making it reliable despite being based on RPi…
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@elly i've sat here for ten minutes and the BMC that claims to be alive doesn't respond to arping
Is that the BMC where they enabled ssh auth password authentication for root logins and the same root password on every single board?
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@jernej__s what the ever living fuck
@whitequark Hey, if it was a Dell or HP or Lenovo, the remote console itself is locked behind a paywall (on HP you can use it for BIOS config, but it stops working a few minutes after the OS starts booting).
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@whitequark Yeah I've been meaning to pick some of them up, I'm also running into the kinds of problems where I realize whey they exist
@cadey @whitequark I've got a PiKVM v3 and v4, NanoKVM and JetKVM. PiKVM has the most features, JetKVM has the most polished UI. NanoKVM is the cheapest.
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@whitequark Hey, if it was a Dell or HP or Lenovo, the remote console itself is locked behind a paywall (on HP you can use it for BIOS config, but it stops working a few minutes after the OS starts booting).
@whitequark Oh, and at least some Lenovos had on-board NICs behind a paywall (and I remember there being problems getting the licenses – you'd buy the board with 4 NICs where two were a "Feature on demand", but then you couldn't buy the unlock codes to make those NICs work).
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can someone explain to me why server motherboards are so fucking awful (it could also just be supermicro. i've had two server motherboards and both were from supermicro)
the cheapest, most cost-reduced, aliexpress tier desktop motherboard easily outperforms both of those supermicro boards, combined, when it comes to things like "fucking booting like a normal PC"
Bryan Cantrill was at the Dagstuhl I went to earlier in the year. The things he described, both in terms of the things Joylent had to do to replace this nonsense and the original nonsense were terrifying. The fact the thing powers on and executes some instructions with access to RAM at all is a minor miracle.
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