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  3. If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

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  • chfkch@ruhr.socialC chfkch@ruhr.social

    @woozle
    It has been 0 days since someone explained ActivityPub to @cwebber 😁 @spritely

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    @chfkch @cwebber @spritely

    I'm glad that people are so helpful in keeping her up-to-date with this new technology! 🤪

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

      We have the skills and the underlying tech to pull this off. What we need right now is resources. Funding for open source nonprofits like ours really fell apart in 2025. If you think you know how to help, feel free to reach out.

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      @cwebber @spritely How is the devlopment looking as of now? Currently looking into Stoat for the time being but will have no issues moving again. Discord-esque chat platforms is the next big thing I'm missing from the fediverse right now.

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      • danvolchek@mastodon.socialD danvolchek@mastodon.social

        @cwebber @spritely Its so frustrating that all the other replacements should be good options, but they're not because they either don't work or have a difficult to use UX. If you end up doing this please make it usable 😭

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        @danvolchek @cwebber @spritely I found out about a reverse-engineered open-source clone of Discord just yesterday on a discussion about this on Lemmy. Fluxer. The screenshots make it look exactly like Discord, but I haven’t used it. It appears to be in beta: https://fluxer.app

        Edit to add that as a Discord clone it’s probably not federated or end to end encrypted, so my post was more a reply to Dan instead of to Christine.

        Edit 2: https://spacebar.chat is the reverse engineered one!

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        • luggage@benehomini.socialL luggage@benehomini.social

          @cwebber @spritely if it can be made as simple to install and run as Mastodon, then I could see it being a great opportunity. I’m advocating for hyper local installs as a way around age verification. https://www.empathyforward.org/2025/12/community-based-fediverse-instances/

          My own FOSS efforts are focused on making this easier to manage.

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          @luggage Is that a real piece of graffiti art? If so, it's amazing.

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          • shanie@mastodon.tails.chS shanie@mastodon.tails.ch

            @dthompson @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely That’s because Stoat doesn’t have decentralized federated features. In fact, if you want to connect to another server, you have to compile the client and distribute it.

            Saying this, Federation of chat channels might be unnecessary tech. What you need is a client that easily connects to multiple servers (“communities”) simultaneously with a single login, of which that login server can be federated.

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            @shanie
            Is there an audio-focused version of Loops that could do... something with ... Fedi...?
            Long Covid eviscerated my brain. IDEK if this makes sense. (Also, depending whenever the UK strips VPNs, I may or may not be able to reply in mid-future.) @dthompson @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely

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            • dthompson@toot.catD dthompson@toot.cat

              @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely can you name one that is any good? I can't. matrix probably comes the closest but it has fundamental issues that would be hard to fix retroactively.

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              @dthompson However bad they are, all of them are literally better than one that doesn't exist at all. With the time left, which option makes more sense, from the standpoint of gaining a viable alternative in the shortest time? I say, pick the most promising or least-bad extant project, and warp-drive that into viailibity, however ugly it is coming out of the gate. You're either going to have to A-Team this, or accept using the thing you want to drop until you have the pretty thing you want.

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

                We have the skills and the underlying tech to pull this off. What we need right now is resources. Funding for open source nonprofits like ours really fell apart in 2025. If you think you know how to help, feel free to reach out.

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                @cwebber @onepict @spritely Excellent. Will be following this development. I would love to assist from an appsec perspective if/when needed. We really need a good alternative.

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                • dthompson@toot.catD dthompson@toot.cat

                  @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely can you name one that is any good? I can't. matrix probably comes the closest but it has fundamental issues that would be hard to fix retroactively.

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                  @dthompson @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely
                  I'm curious what the fundamental issues are with Matrix that can't be fixed, and what should've been done differently. It seems like a generally pretty solid project.

                  I like the concept and general idea of "open source Discord" very much, but I'm just not sure why building something from scratch would be better than trying to improve one of the existing Discord-replacements, especially since part of the appeal of Discord was the network-effect driven feeling that "everyone is on it". One mediocre platform that can be improved might actually be better than five great ones.

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                  • ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.socialE ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.social

                    @cwebber @spritely What is going on with Discord? why does EVERYONE use it?

                    I don't even know what it is LOL

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                    @ekaitz_zarraga yeah its bigger than discord, nationalists are trying to clamp down on comms again

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                    • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                      @luggage Is that a real piece of graffiti art? If so, it's amazing.

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                      @wesdym I believe it is. I try to avoid AI generated images if I can. It’s from Unsplash.

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                      • mxverda@lgbtqia.spaceM mxverda@lgbtqia.space

                        @shanie
                        Is there an audio-focused version of Loops that could do... something with ... Fedi...?
                        Long Covid eviscerated my brain. IDEK if this makes sense. (Also, depending whenever the UK strips VPNs, I may or may not be able to reply in mid-future.) @dthompson @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely

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                        @MxVerda …that’s a good question, I don’t know the answer to that. So like an audio version of browsing “TikTok’s” (like spontaneously rolling up on music or podcasts)?

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                        • ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.socialE ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.social

                          @cwebber @spritely What is going on with Discord? why does EVERYONE use it?

                          I don't even know what it is LOL

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                          @ekaitz_zarraga @cwebber @spritely I have to use it for work. Before I used it for a while for fansubbing. I never liked it, but, I have to admit people at work managed to make the company server quite organised. But back in the fansubbing days, it was a mess and people loved the NSFW area.

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                          • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                            @dthompson However bad they are, all of them are literally better than one that doesn't exist at all. With the time left, which option makes more sense, from the standpoint of gaining a viable alternative in the shortest time? I say, pick the most promising or least-bad extant project, and warp-drive that into viailibity, however ugly it is coming out of the gate. You're either going to have to A-Team this, or accept using the thing you want to drop until you have the pretty thing you want.

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                            @wesdym sure, I'm not saying people shouldn't find something that works well enough right now. but I also don't want to build on anything that's out there. it will be too difficult/impossible to retrofit them.

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

                              We have the skills and the underlying tech to pull this off. What we need right now is resources. Funding for open source nonprofits like ours really fell apart in 2025. If you think you know how to help, feel free to reach out.

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                              @cwebber @spritely

                              discord is bad
                              a discord replacement will also be bad

                              who needs yet another garbage chat app

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

                                We have the skills and the underlying tech to pull this off. What we need right now is resources. Funding for open source nonprofits like ours really fell apart in 2025. If you think you know how to help, feel free to reach out.

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                                @cwebber @spritely

                                What about https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/

                                Seems quite nice (though I haven't tried it). Other than that, I'd suggest XMPP and not Matrix.

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                                • dthompson@toot.catD dthompson@toot.cat

                                  @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely can you name one that is any good? I can't. matrix probably comes the closest but it has fundamental issues that would be hard to fix retroactively.

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                                  @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely @dthompson there are no issues which cannot be fixed, it's software

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                                  • kitkat@climatejustice.socialK kitkat@climatejustice.social

                                    @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely @dthompson there are no issues which cannot be fixed, it's software

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                                    @kitkat @polyfloyd @cwebber @spritely from a thereotical standpoint, yes. from a practical standpoint, no.

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                                    • shanie@mastodon.tails.chS shanie@mastodon.tails.ch

                                      @MxVerda …that’s a good question, I don’t know the answer to that. So like an audio version of browsing “TikTok’s” (like spontaneously rolling up on music or podcasts)?

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                                      @shanie ye! A bit like soundcloud and teamspeak, with a hint of twitch.
                                      Has to be predicated on this model of distinct servers mutually agreeing to share info, though.

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                                      • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                        @polyfloyd wow I hadn't seen https://commet.chat before this, thanks, this is a super nice Matrix client. cc @douginamug

                                        @dthompson @cwebber @spritely

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                                        @liaizon @polyfloyd thanks! Movement in this space is strong... To add to the list in this thread:

                                        * https://tryquiet.org/
                                        * https://a.roomy.space/

                                        @dthompson @cwebber @spritely

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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          If you're interested in funding or helping us find funding for a Discord replacement that's federated and end-to-end encrypted, we're interested in implementing that at @spritely ... we even had been talking about that being our big focus for 2026.

                                          We have the skills and the underlying tech to pull this off. What we need right now is resources. Funding for open source nonprofits like ours really fell apart in 2025. If you think you know how to help, feel free to reach out.

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                                          @cwebber @spritely

                                          https://zulip.com is a good open source alternative

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