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Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

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  • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

    @cstross Tangentially related, what if a practical cure for aging was discovered? There is a novel called The Postmortal which imagines the many dystopian aspects of never dying.

    Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon series imagines immortality via mind uploading and body swapping tech as technologies which demonstrably have lead to the end of alien civilizations but which humans just can't resist.

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    @Infoseepage Ssh, that might be a spoiler for the novel I just finished …!

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      @Infoseepage Ssh, that might be a spoiler for the novel I just finished …!

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      @cstross Immortality as a product/treatment is anything new for SciFi. It's been providing rich fodder for authors for decades upon decades of speculation on the perverse shapes civilizations with access to such technology might take. You've got books like Vance's To Live Forever and Sheckley's Immortality, Inc. going back to the 1950's. Personal favorites growing up are Haldeman's Buying Time and Boat of a Million Years.

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      • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

        @cstross Immortality as a product/treatment is anything new for SciFi. It's been providing rich fodder for authors for decades upon decades of speculation on the perverse shapes civilizations with access to such technology might take. You've got books like Vance's To Live Forever and Sheckley's Immortality, Inc. going back to the 1950's. Personal favorites growing up are Haldeman's Buying Time and Boat of a Million Years.

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        @cstross Lately, caught a few episodes of The Beauty, which is about a lab created immortality virus which gets loose, mutates and is sexually transmissible. It radically reshapes individuals for youth, health and beauty, but comes with a ticking time bomb of spontaneous combustion within a few years of infection unless you get an expensive suppressive shot. Sort of the ultimate in "the first one is always free" perpetual rent seeking.

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        • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

          @cstross Immortality as a product/treatment is anything new for SciFi. It's been providing rich fodder for authors for decades upon decades of speculation on the perverse shapes civilizations with access to such technology might take. You've got books like Vance's To Live Forever and Sheckley's Immortality, Inc. going back to the 1950's. Personal favorites growing up are Haldeman's Buying Time and Boat of a Million Years.

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          @Infoseepage You haven't read my SF, have you? (Hint: try "Glasshouse".)

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

            In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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            @cstross
            Tales from the Black Chamber

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              @Infoseepage You haven't read my SF, have you? (Hint: try "Glasshouse".)

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              @cstross I've read your stuff fairly comprehensively, but somehow missed that one. Tossing it on my list now.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                @cstross

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                  In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                  @cstross The Orzhov Syndicate would like a word.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                    @cstross "The Victorians were onto something with their debtors' prison. So I'd like to introduce you to a little concept we're working on. It's called debtors' Hell …”

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                    • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                      @cstross I've read your stuff fairly comprehensively, but somehow missed that one. Tossing it on my list now.

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                      @Infoseepage A thing i should have made clear in the front matter is that "the glasshouse" is old British army slang for a military prison.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        @cstross 3dfx inspired, right?

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                        @davidgerard @cstross Sounds like a mix of the Laundry's 'residual assets' is it? With Max Gladstone's stuff. Neat!

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                          @cstross I think that was the point of the original Haitian zombie myth. Slavery continues, even after death.

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                            @LordWoolamaloo @cstross came here to say this.

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                              In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                              @cstross
                              There's something of this in Max Gladstone's Craft sequences.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                @cstross ah, a fantasy version of RoboCop

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                  In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                  @cstross Just when you thought you were out, iteas for a Laundry Files anthology pull you back in. *chuckles darkly* 🙂

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                                  • hmfons@mastodon.socialH hmfons@mastodon.social

                                    @cstross The Orzhov Syndicate would like a word.

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                                    @HmFons @cstross

                                    Came here to say this.

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                      @cstross Great concept. Maybe after you finish your sequel?

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                        @cstross I like it. It's got legs!

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                          @cstross While this idea is quite different, for some reason it reminded me of the Dan Shamble, Zombie P.I. Series by Kevin J. Anderson, which I enjoyed quite a lot & wished there was more of.

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