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Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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    @cstross 3dfx inspired, right?

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    • scipoltech@mastodon.onlineS scipoltech@mastodon.online

      @cstross Can I join a list for a signed first edition hardcover of this now?

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      @SciPolTech No because I'm not writing it: I'm already 400 words into the sequel to "Starter Pack" and it's going to take me the rest of the year.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

        uep@timeloop.cafeU This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross all accident compensation claims are made directly by the victims, in the flesh (or whatever's left of it)

        Companies are very serious about safety.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

          acb@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross K.W. Jeter did something similar in “Noir”

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

            In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

            sabik@rants.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cstross
            Ghosts with unfinished business... literally

            A director can't pass on until replaced at the next AGM

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

              In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

              infoseepage@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross Tangentially related, what if a practical cure for aging was discovered? There is a novel called The Postmortal which imagines the many dystopian aspects of never dying.

              Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon series imagines immortality via mind uploading and body swapping tech as technologies which demonstrably have lead to the end of alien civilizations but which humans just can't resist.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                thetomas@social.toot9.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cstross ah you're talking about 100year copyright protection rights?

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                • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                  @cstross Tangentially related, what if a practical cure for aging was discovered? There is a novel called The Postmortal which imagines the many dystopian aspects of never dying.

                  Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon series imagines immortality via mind uploading and body swapping tech as technologies which demonstrably have lead to the end of alien civilizations but which humans just can't resist.

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                  @cstross Both have the idea of immortality as a sort of cultural trap with the potential for permanent underclasses and rulling classes and horrifically long term contracts.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                    @cstross

                    Sounds a bit like Jack Gilmour

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                    Wish Lawyer: Law is Hell Series by Ed Ryder

                    Jack Gilmour (Wish Lawyer: Law is Hell #1) and Demons in the Details (Wish Lawyer: Law is Hell #2)

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                    (www.goodreads.com)

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                      @cstross Sounds a bit like some of Max Gladstones work.

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                      • leyrer@23.socialL leyrer@23.social

                        @cstross your brain wouldn't stop, throwing ideass at you, would it?

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                        @leyrer
                        Sometimes it's just @foone being a muse: https://wandering.shop/@cstross/116108084351760427
                        @cstross

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                          @cstross See real world demonology and immortality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juridical_person

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                          • towo@chaos.socialT towo@chaos.social

                            @leyrer
                            Sometimes it's just @foone being a muse: https://wandering.shop/@cstross/116108084351760427
                            @cstross

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                            @towo I saw that 😄

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                            • moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM moira@mastodon.murkworks.net

                              @cstross in other words, scientology?

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                              @moira @cstross Actually, almost exactly this idea is behind evolution of term "debt" from "sin". If you read Graeber's Debt: The First 5,000 Years, you kind of feel, that the religions originated exactly from such concept.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                @cstross may I suggest Katarina Pistor's "The Code of Capital"?

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                  In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                  @cstross
                                  That feels familiar, but not sure why. Maybe a short story from some anthology, or something Deathy from Terry Pratchett or Piers Anthony or what's his name that did Sandman.

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                    @cstross

                                    Driven a little bit by personal experience, would these particular Contract Lawyers be Barristers? I had to pay one for specialised legal advice, not for representation in court.

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

                                      seachaint@masto.hackers.townS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @cstross If you haven't yet seen the show "Extraordinary", it's a must watch. There's a character in it who can do séance-style summonings of the dead, so of course her job is to work with lawyers untangling wills and titles 🙂

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                                      • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                                        @cstross Tangentially related, what if a practical cure for aging was discovered? There is a novel called The Postmortal which imagines the many dystopian aspects of never dying.

                                        Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon series imagines immortality via mind uploading and body swapping tech as technologies which demonstrably have lead to the end of alien civilizations but which humans just can't resist.

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                                        @Infoseepage Ssh, that might be a spoiler for the novel I just finished …!

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @Infoseepage Ssh, that might be a spoiler for the novel I just finished …!

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                                          @cstross Immortality as a product/treatment is anything new for SciFi. It's been providing rich fodder for authors for decades upon decades of speculation on the perverse shapes civilizations with access to such technology might take. You've got books like Vance's To Live Forever and Sheckley's Immortality, Inc. going back to the 1950's. Personal favorites growing up are Haldeman's Buying Time and Boat of a Million Years.

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