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Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008.

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  • charette@mstdn.caC charette@mstdn.ca

    @mitchellh Is it mostly the outages like you describe in the post? Or is that just the latest problem?

    For me, there are philosophical differences. The removal of the most popular "sponsor" option, meant I lost most of my sponsors a few years ago. The flippant answers from MS saying they were doing that "to provide more options", when it was obvious they were *removing* a popular option.

    Their decision to train AI with our content, and also move the entire GitHub organization under their AI umbrella.

    Codeberg is where I moved. If outages are an issue, then Codeberg may not be for you since they seem to suffer from DoS attacks every once in a while. But the philosophy when it comes to open source is what made me leave GitHub.

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    @charette @mitchellh Me too

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    • toolbear@tech.lgbtT toolbear@tech.lgbt

      @jmcrookston
      Coming months. I took that to mean he wasn't ready to share. Maybe a misinterpretation on my part.

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      @toolbear

      Ah, I thought you were saying the author had said where they were going, because that's what the earlier person asked. You were saying the broader question of what the author was doing was in the article.

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      • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

        Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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        @mitchellh It hurts when something you’ve developed an emotional attachment towards turns against the principles that created the emotional attachment in the first place.
        And emotions should matter. They’re core of being human, widely increasing the processing power we’re able to harness, not a weakness to be stifled.

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        • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

          Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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          @mitchellh it's pretty easy to install #Forgejo #OpenSource

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          • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

            Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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            @mitchellh sorry to hear that. I hope we find the people who do care about making a better forge and help them make it an amazing place too!

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            • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

              Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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              @mitchellh It would be great to have a GitHub alternative that works in a distributed way, like Mastodon. Instead of everything being on one platform, people could host their own servers but still collaborate with others easily. This would give developers more control and reduce dependence on a single company.

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              • nkanaev@hachyderm.ioN nkanaev@hachyderm.io

                @mitchellh Fair enough. What alternative are you considering moving to?

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                @nkanaev @mitchellh We switched to @codefloe and setup a yearly donation.

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                • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                  Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                  @mitchellh "GitHub is the place that has made me the most happy", I don't know man, that sounds grim.

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                  • mabdalrahman@mas.toM mabdalrahman@mas.to

                    @mitchellh It would be great to have a GitHub alternative that works in a distributed way, like Mastodon. Instead of everything being on one platform, people could host their own servers but still collaborate with others easily. This would give developers more control and reduce dependence on a single company.

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                    @mabdalrahman that's what Forgejo (the software that codeberg runs on) is working on.

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                    Protocol: https://forgefed.org/

                    #forgejo #git #fediverse #federation #activitypub

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                    • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                      Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                      @mitchellh we're big fans of @Codeberg . They're working on federation, so in the future there might a whole network of Forgejo instances. Worth the investment.

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                      • charette@mstdn.caC charette@mstdn.ca

                        @mitchellh Is it mostly the outages like you describe in the post? Or is that just the latest problem?

                        For me, there are philosophical differences. The removal of the most popular "sponsor" option, meant I lost most of my sponsors a few years ago. The flippant answers from MS saying they were doing that "to provide more options", when it was obvious they were *removing* a popular option.

                        Their decision to train AI with our content, and also move the entire GitHub organization under their AI umbrella.

                        Codeberg is where I moved. If outages are an issue, then Codeberg may not be for you since they seem to suffer from DoS attacks every once in a while. But the philosophy when it comes to open source is what made me leave GitHub.

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                        @charette @mitchellh I also expected to read more arguments like this tbh.

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                        • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                          Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                          @mitchellh Despite the apparent composure, it’s quite emotional.

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                          • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                            Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                            @mitchellh GitHub more like WeStealYourCodeForAIHub

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                            • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                              Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                              @mitchellh fair enough

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                              • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                                Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                                @mitchellh @philnelson

                                This really feels like a service that can benefit from federation.

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                                • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                                  Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                                  @mitchellh What are you choosing instead? I’m currently setting up a self-hosted Forgejo instance. However, it’s not an ideal solution until ForgeFed is stable and integrated.

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                                  • mitchellh@hachyderm.ioM mitchellh@hachyderm.io

                                    Ghostty is leaving GitHub. I'm GitHub user 1299, joined Feb 2008. I've visited GitHub almost every single day for over 18 years. It's never been a question for me where I'd put my projects: always GitHub. I'm super sad to say this, but its time to go. https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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                                    @mitchellh
                                    check this out 👇
                                    https://gitworkshop.dev/
                                    It’s a decentralized way to collaborate on Git using Nostr + GRASP—no platform or account needed, and it works with your usual Git workflow.

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                                    • r0k@mastodon.socialR r0k@mastodon.social

                                      @bitbraindev @mitchellh

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                                      @r0k @bitbraindev @mitchellh Isn't that the graph, that is green going back decades, because instead of saying they don't have past measurements, they are showing it as available by default? https://github.com/DaMrNelson/github-historical-uptime/issues/2

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                                      • schwarzelocke@ohai.socialS schwarzelocke@ohai.social

                                        @r0k @bitbraindev @mitchellh Isn't that the graph, that is green going back decades, because instead of saying they don't have past measurements, they are showing it as available by default? https://github.com/DaMrNelson/github-historical-uptime/issues/2

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                                        @SchwarzeLocke @r0k @mitchellh good catch, it makes the impact look more severe. That being said, it doesn't change the rest of the diagram which still does not look okay.

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                                        • mabdalrahman@mas.toM mabdalrahman@mas.to

                                          @mitchellh
                                          check this out 👇
                                          https://gitworkshop.dev/
                                          It’s a decentralized way to collaborate on Git using Nostr + GRASP—no platform or account needed, and it works with your usual Git workflow.

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                                          @mitchellh also check this

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                                          tangled · tightly-knit social coding

                                          The next-generation social coding platform.

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                                          Tangled (tangled.org)

                                          The next-generation social coding platform.

                                          We envision a place where developers have ownership of their code, communities can freely self-govern and most importantly, coding can be social and fun again.

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