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  3. So-called "inanimate" devices can sense when it's the most inopportune time to fail, and do so at that time.

So-called "inanimate" devices can sense when it's the most inopportune time to fail, and do so at that time.

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  • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

    So-called "inanimate" devices can sense when it's the most inopportune time to fail, and do so at that time.

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    @brouhaha "oh it's so inanimate" yeah that's a funny way of saying UTTER BASTARD

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    • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

      So-called "inanimate" devices can sense when it's the most inopportune time to fail, and do so at that time.

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      @brouhaha I think these devices pretend to be inanimate when the user wants them to perform their designed tasks, but they’re very proactive and animated when they’re collecting the user’s personal information and reporting back to Ma.

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      • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

        So-called "inanimate" devices can sense when it's the most inopportune time to fail, and do so at that time.

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        @brouhaha corollary of Murphy's law

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        • amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA amenzwa@mathstodon.xyz

          @brouhaha I think these devices pretend to be inanimate when the user wants them to perform their designed tasks, but they’re very proactive and animated when they’re collecting the user’s personal information and reporting back to Ma.

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          @AmenZwa
          Meta probably decided they weren't collecting enough usable data from my Linux machine, and stopped sending it keepalives.

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          • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

            @AmenZwa
            Meta probably decided they weren't collecting enough usable data from my Linux machine, and stopped sending it keepalives.

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            @brouhaha A few decades back, UNIX and UNIX-like OSs were a small safe haven. Now, pencil-and-paper is the only safe place left.

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            • amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA amenzwa@mathstodon.xyz

              @brouhaha A few decades back, UNIX and UNIX-like OSs were a small safe haven. Now, pencil-and-paper is the only safe place left.

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              @AmenZwa
              They'll have that covered, too, in the next release of PencilOS. Keep your old pencils, and don't let them install updates.

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              • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                @AmenZwa
                They'll have that covered, too, in the next release of PencilOS. Keep your old pencils, and don't let them install updates.

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                @brouhaha @AmenZwa I once made a pencil cluster

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                • jef@mastodon.socialJ jef@mastodon.social

                  @brouhaha @AmenZwa I once made a pencil cluster

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                  @jef @brouhaha 😍

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                  • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                    So-called "inanimate" devices can sense when it's the most inopportune time to fail, and do so at that time.

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                    @brouhaha I worked for a Xerox research lab for a number of years, and I am still disappointed I was unable to discover the technology that senses when you have a critical deadline and jams the printer

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                    • amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA amenzwa@mathstodon.xyz

                      @brouhaha A few decades back, UNIX and UNIX-like OSs were a small safe haven. Now, pencil-and-paper is the only safe place left.

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                      @AmenZwa @brouhaha UNIX is clearly not incompatible enough. I know a timesharing system that is.

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                      • larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.orgL larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @AmenZwa @brouhaha UNIX is clearly not incompatible enough. I know a timesharing system that is.

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                        @larsbrinkhoff @AmenZwa @brouhaha I wrote an incompatible operating system twice. One booted a supercomputer. One runs product scanners. That last one was a from-scratch cloning of P/SOS in Linux, including system calls. Don't ask why. I've been paid to do many strange things with computers.

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                        • larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.orgL larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.org

                          @AmenZwa @brouhaha UNIX is clearly not incompatible enough. I know a timesharing system that is.

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                          Quite right, @larsbrinkhoff. Soon, the cognoscenti will be moving back to the old favourite OSs, like TOPS, MULTICS, OS/360, etc., complete with the old favourite mainframes of the eras, reimplemented on tiny FPGAs. Even such a drastic retrenchment probably will not be a long term safe place against intrusion. And like @brouhaha said, there will be a PencilOS one day, robbing us of our only current safe place—pencil-and-paper.

                          We have run out of places in which to hide from the TechBro Digital Overlords.😀

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                          • amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA amenzwa@mathstodon.xyz

                            Quite right, @larsbrinkhoff. Soon, the cognoscenti will be moving back to the old favourite OSs, like TOPS, MULTICS, OS/360, etc., complete with the old favourite mainframes of the eras, reimplemented on tiny FPGAs. Even such a drastic retrenchment probably will not be a long term safe place against intrusion. And like @brouhaha said, there will be a PencilOS one day, robbing us of our only current safe place—pencil-and-paper.

                            We have run out of places in which to hide from the TechBro Digital Overlords.😀

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                            @AmenZwa @brouhaha By TOPS, you mean Total Operations Processing System right? CC @alderson

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                            • larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.orgL larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @AmenZwa @brouhaha By TOPS, you mean Total Operations Processing System right? CC @alderson

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                              @larsbrinkhoff
                              I was referring to DEC’s Timesharing Operating System-10 (TOPS-10) OS that ran on the DECsystem-10 (PDP-10). I know very little about the “Total Operations Processing System” of British Rail. In fact, my knowledge of TOPS-10 and PDP-10 are almost as sparse, too. I grew up on the later generation DECs: the PDP-11/70 running 6th Edition and the VAX-11/780 running 4.2BSD. And I disliked the VMS that my uni ran on its VAX 8000 family of superminis.

                              It is fair to label me as having a limited (biased) view on OSs.

                              @brouhaha @alderson

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                              • larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.orgL larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @AmenZwa @brouhaha By TOPS, you mean Total Operations Processing System right? CC @alderson

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                                @larsbrinkhoff @AmenZwa @alderson
                                I was pretty disappointed when TOPS evolved (devolved?) into being just a file-sharing utility for the Macintosh.
                                How the mighty have fallen!

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                                • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                                  @larsbrinkhoff @AmenZwa @alderson
                                  I was pretty disappointed when TOPS evolved (devolved?) into being just a file-sharing utility for the Macintosh.
                                  How the mighty have fallen!

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                                  @brouhaha

                                  Worse than that, it also morphed into British Rail’s rolling stock management system Total Operations Processing System. 😆

                                  Just a moment...

                                  favicon

                                  (british-rail.fandom.com)

                                  @larsbrinkhoff @alderson

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                                  • amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA amenzwa@mathstodon.xyz

                                    Quite right, @larsbrinkhoff. Soon, the cognoscenti will be moving back to the old favourite OSs, like TOPS, MULTICS, OS/360, etc., complete with the old favourite mainframes of the eras, reimplemented on tiny FPGAs. Even such a drastic retrenchment probably will not be a long term safe place against intrusion. And like @brouhaha said, there will be a PencilOS one day, robbing us of our only current safe place—pencil-and-paper.

                                    We have run out of places in which to hide from the TechBro Digital Overlords.😀

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                                    @AmenZwa @larsbrinkhoff @brouhaha

                                    What did “TOPS” run on?

                                    DEC had 2 mainframe operating systems for the PDP-10 family, Tops-10 and TOPS-20, which did nor share a single line of code, and were always referred to by their full names.

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                                      @AmenZwa @larsbrinkhoff @brouhaha

                                      What did “TOPS” run on?

                                      DEC had 2 mainframe operating systems for the PDP-10 family, Tops-10 and TOPS-20, which did nor share a single line of code, and were always referred to by their full names.

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                                      @alderson
                                      Like I said, I’ve only ever smelled the TOPS-10 a couple of times, from a distance through a VT-100. The PDP-10 at my uni was guarded jealously by a select few. And we didn’t have TOPS-20.

                                      Most in my department lived on our own VAX-11/780, on which we ran the 4.2BSD.

                                      I also said I have a rather limited, lopsided view on OSs.

                                      I referenced TOPS, MULTICS, etc., in the context of a joke about Internet privacy—or the lack thereof, these days.

                                      @larsbrinkhoff @brouhaha

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                                      • larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.orgL larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        @AmenZwa @brouhaha UNIX is clearly not incompatible enough. I know a timesharing system that is.

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                                        @larsbrinkhoff ITS, I'm guessing? Incompatible is right in the name. @AmenZwa @brouhaha

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                                        • 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange0 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange

                                          @larsbrinkhoff ITS, I'm guessing? Incompatible is right in the name. @AmenZwa @brouhaha

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                                          @0x0ddc0ffee @AmenZwa @brouhaha Indeed ITS was on my mind. It seems a system that is a pretty safe haven.

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