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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

    Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

    (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

    Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

    argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @sundogplanets

    What is SpaceX even actually trying to do? Because putting AI data centers in space obviously isn't it.

    Space is a vacuum. There's no heat-absorbing medium (air, water, etc) to use for cooling. Put a data center's worth of AI computers into a large space station, and the whole thing will burn itself to a crisp in short order.

    Spacecraft use slow, simple computers for a reason. Several, actually, but one of them is that they don't use much power and don't make much heat.

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    • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

      @sundogplanets

      What is SpaceX even actually trying to do? Because putting AI data centers in space obviously isn't it.

      Space is a vacuum. There's no heat-absorbing medium (air, water, etc) to use for cooling. Put a data center's worth of AI computers into a large space station, and the whole thing will burn itself to a crisp in short order.

      Spacecraft use slow, simple computers for a reason. Several, actually, but one of them is that they don't use much power and don't make much heat.

      argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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      argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
      wrote last edited by
      #5

      @sundogplanets

      Another of the aforementioned reasons is that there's a lot of bit-flipping cosmic rays out there. Your fancy NVIDIA AI chip isn't gonna work too well with no atmosphere protecting its delicate nanoscopic circuitry from all those high-energy particles.

      Tl;dr: physics says no.

      So either SpaceX somehow aren't aware of all this, or they've got something else in mind for all those space stations.

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      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

        @sundogplanets

        Another of the aforementioned reasons is that there's a lot of bit-flipping cosmic rays out there. Your fancy NVIDIA AI chip isn't gonna work too well with no atmosphere protecting its delicate nanoscopic circuitry from all those high-energy particles.

        Tl;dr: physics says no.

        So either SpaceX somehow aren't aware of all this, or they've got something else in mind for all those space stations.

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        #6

        @argv_minus_one @sundogplanets they’re using the announcement to raise money/keep ahead of the joneses in the ai space

        He’s already backtracked on mars…

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

          Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

          (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

          Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

          12thrits@mstdn.social1 This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @sundogplanets Sunlight as a̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶v̶i̶c̶e̶ environmental menace.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

            Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

            (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

            Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

            idahobucks@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @sundogplanets another Elon scam to grab billionaires from our government. The US is so stupid

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

              Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

              (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

              Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

              smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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              smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.org
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              #9

              @sundogplanets Thanks for providing templates and detailed instructions. Worked great, thanks. I filed comments on both of this insane proposals. 😎

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

                Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

                (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

                Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

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                #10

                @sundogplanets I envise a dystopian final, destroy the day while giving solar light only to those who pay. Night or day, just pay

                The others will be at dusk or with no light 24h/24

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                • glasspusher@beige.partyG glasspusher@beige.party

                  @argv_minus_one @sundogplanets they’re using the announcement to raise money/keep ahead of the joneses in the ai space

                  He’s already backtracked on mars…

                  argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @glasspusher

                  Aw, c'mon, where's the villainy in that? You can't put a bunch of space stations into orbit without hiding giant lasers in them or something.

                  @sundogplanets

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

                    Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

                    (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

                    Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

                    jeffmcneill@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #12

                    @sundogplanets @artfulrobot Science fiction is writing itself...

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

                      Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

                      (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

                      Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

                      w6kme@mastodon.radioW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #13

                      @sundogplanets Just a reminder to all my Amateur Radio friends...

                      The bar for making comments has been set unfairly high, since it requires a CORES account. But we all have this account already, since it's a requirement for a ham radio license. So we are in a far better position than most of the public to comment.

                      It's up to us to comment for the millions of people denied the opportunity. Don't pass this chance up!

                      #hamradio #amateurradio

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                      • tryst@fedi.imu.liT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @lispi314@udongein.xyz pretty sure the heat from conversion losses on the satellite destroy that idea too. even a 15% loss is disastrous for that much power in a vacuum.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

                          Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

                          (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

                          Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

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                          #15

                          @sundogplanets You may consider signing the #A4E statement on Proposed Large Satellite Constellations: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdnBbw-dATjyHVovhoDTtl_VYKWZTs7T8ZbF9sC7oRdDILrEw/viewform

                          #AstronomersForPlanetEarth

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/116053742685475452

                            Deadline for comments on a million SpaceX "AI data centers" and a company that wants to deliver "sunlight as a service." If you have time and energy, please write a comment! Instructions below.

                            (I heard a rumour that Reflect Orbital is on-track to have the most comments on an FCC filing ever. Seems like a good goal to beat the record writing responses to this incredibly fucking stupid idea)

                            Also instructions here: https://darksky.org/news/two-satellite-proposals-threaten-the-night-sky-the-window-to-act-is-now/

                            sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            sundogplanets@mastodon.social
                            wrote last edited by
                            #16

                            I helped write and edit comments that were submitted by multiple organizations that I'm a member of about SpaceX's fucking stupid awful million sat filing, but I haven't submitted my own yet. After a week of emotionally grueling (but incredibly important) work supporting a good friend, battling the FCC submission process doesn't sound so bad anymore!

                            gwozniak@discuss.systemsG legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS 3 Replies Last reply
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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              I helped write and edit comments that were submitted by multiple organizations that I'm a member of about SpaceX's fucking stupid awful million sat filing, but I haven't submitted my own yet. After a week of emotionally grueling (but incredibly important) work supporting a good friend, battling the FCC submission process doesn't sound so bad anymore!

                              gwozniak@discuss.systemsG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @sundogplanets For what it's worth, I've submitted mine.

                              I don't have anything of substance to add except "this sucks", basically, but I'm sending the comment anyway.

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                I helped write and edit comments that were submitted by multiple organizations that I'm a member of about SpaceX's fucking stupid awful million sat filing, but I haven't submitted my own yet. After a week of emotionally grueling (but incredibly important) work supporting a good friend, battling the FCC submission process doesn't sound so bad anymore!

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                                @sundogplanets Can we somehow rope your goats into leaving their comments as well? I get the sense they'd have much more reasonable and nuanced thoughts than the average SpaceX supporter.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  I helped write and edit comments that were submitted by multiple organizations that I'm a member of about SpaceX's fucking stupid awful million sat filing, but I haven't submitted my own yet. After a week of emotionally grueling (but incredibly important) work supporting a good friend, battling the FCC submission process doesn't sound so bad anymore!

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #19

                                  Ok well another Starlink just reentered over Canada. So yeah. Definitely writing this now.

                                  Time to live-toot an FCC submission while completely exhausted, but also watching a pleasant anime with friends and family!

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Ok well another Starlink just reentered over Canada. So yeah. Definitely writing this now.

                                    Time to live-toot an FCC submission while completely exhausted, but also watching a pleasant anime with friends and family!

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                                    #20

                                    Step 1: make a pdf. I think I'm going to mash together these two articles that I co-authored in the last couple weeks about very stupid things happening in orbit with huge consequences.

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                                    Too many satellites? Earth’s orbit is on track for a catastrophe – but we can stop it

                                    Cultural, spiritual, and most environmental impacts aren’t taken into account when launching thousands of satellites.

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                                    The Conversation (theconversation.com)

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                                    A new space race could turn our atmosphere into a ‘crematorium for satellites’

                                    Planned ‘megaconstellations’ of satellites could cause unforeseen harm to the ozone layer and climate systems. Global regulation is needed before it’s too late.

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                                    The Conversation (theconversation.com)

                                    Unfortunately this'll require a bit of work because the different ways of doing citations. Or maybe I'll just leave the links in? I am pretty far beyond caring about formatting.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Step 1: make a pdf. I think I'm going to mash together these two articles that I co-authored in the last couple weeks about very stupid things happening in orbit with huge consequences.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Too many satellites? Earth’s orbit is on track for a catastrophe – but we can stop it

                                      Cultural, spiritual, and most environmental impacts aren’t taken into account when launching thousands of satellites.

                                      favicon

                                      The Conversation (theconversation.com)

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      A new space race could turn our atmosphere into a ‘crematorium for satellites’

                                      Planned ‘megaconstellations’ of satellites could cause unforeseen harm to the ozone layer and climate systems. Global regulation is needed before it’s too late.

                                      favicon

                                      The Conversation (theconversation.com)

                                      Unfortunately this'll require a bit of work because the different ways of doing citations. Or maybe I'll just leave the links in? I am pretty far beyond caring about formatting.

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                                      @sundogplanets years ago, I read a SF story about the population permanently stressed because at night the saw the ICBM constantly moving like fireflies.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Step 1: make a pdf. I think I'm going to mash together these two articles that I co-authored in the last couple weeks about very stupid things happening in orbit with huge consequences.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Too many satellites? Earth’s orbit is on track for a catastrophe – but we can stop it

                                        Cultural, spiritual, and most environmental impacts aren’t taken into account when launching thousands of satellites.

                                        favicon

                                        The Conversation (theconversation.com)

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        A new space race could turn our atmosphere into a ‘crematorium for satellites’

                                        Planned ‘megaconstellations’ of satellites could cause unforeseen harm to the ozone layer and climate systems. Global regulation is needed before it’s too late.

                                        favicon

                                        The Conversation (theconversation.com)

                                        Unfortunately this'll require a bit of work because the different ways of doing citations. Or maybe I'll just leave the links in? I am pretty far beyond caring about formatting.

                                        sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #22

                                        Ok that took a little longer than I thought. Do I want it to be on letterhead? Will my university be annoyed? I *am* writing as part of my job as a researcher who requires access to dark skies, but I am not writing on behalf of my university. Will go with blank background for this one.

                                        Now working my way through the instructions here: https://aas.org/posts/advocacy/2026/02/how-submit-comments-satellite-applications-fcc

                                        I already have a Cores account, signed in and clicking on things...

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                                        • 12thrits@mstdn.social1 12thrits@mstdn.social

                                          @sundogplanets Sunlight as a̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶v̶i̶c̶e̶ environmental menace.

                                          alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @12thRITS
                                          A Sunlight Service, I think it's ASS.
                                          @sundogplanets

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