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  3. Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells :) anyone got any suggestions ?

Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells :) anyone got any suggestions ?

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  • aspiringluddite@medievalist.masto.hostA aspiringluddite@medievalist.masto.host

    @snosrapkungfu

    Veo Corva's ( @vicorva ) 'Non-Player Character' ticks all the boxes, I think. And is a jolly good read, too.

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    @AspiringLuddite

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    • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

      Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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      @snosrapkungfu Charlie Stross’ "Tales of the New Management" set of three.

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      • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

        Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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        @snosrapkungfu Mary Gentle's eponymous Ilario is intersex but it's been ages since I read it so I don't recall what if any gender they identify with, or how well it holds up.

        Hm... the protagonist of Ann Leckie's _The Raven Tower_ is *technically* nonbinary but that's because they're a rock/god so not exactly representation.

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        • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

          Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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          @snosrapkungfu I'm desperately trying to remember a novel I read a few years ago which had a group of nomadic people whose society had three genders. It was based on African mythology and had flavorful, non-Euro magic; one of the main characters gets corrupted by his power and one of his eyes continually leaks as a sign of that corruption. The overall main theme, as I recall, was attempting to stop desertification of the land, with the desert growing from the east. I can't find it on the internet this morning for the life of me; I thought it was by Nnedi Okorafor, but looking at her titles, none of them seem to be the right one. I'll keep looking and get back to you if I find it.

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          • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

            Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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            @snosrapkungfu T. Kingfisher's Swordheart series and Becky Chambers' Wayfarer series (e.g. The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet) both have strong enby characters. And Martha Wells Murderbot Diaries -- it was a shock to me when Apple TV gendered the main character

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            • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

              Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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              @snosrapkungfu oooh, I wrote one!

              Amazon.com

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              (www.amazon.com)

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              • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                @snosrapkungfu I don't have them in front of me, but @annaleen wrote The Terraformers, which I think has some enby characters. I think it's a good sign that I remember the characters, but not their genders.

                Also, I have a similar thought. about @r_emrys The Half-Built Garden.

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                • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                  Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                  @snosrapkungfu I'm reasonably sure several works on the Otherwise Award lists (that have received the award or been on the honor lists or long lists) https://otherwiseaward.org/award#previous-awards fit your criteria!

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                  • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                    Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                    @snosrapkungfu "Monk & Robot" belongs on your list. I'll call it "soft sf"?

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                    • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                      Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                      @snosrapkungfu
                      I recently read Parksville Community Witch, which is probably more romance than fantasy, but the main character is a nonbinary witch

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                      • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                        Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                        @snosrapkungfu Maybe Alex Easton in Kingfisher's Sworn Soldier series? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Moves_the_Dead

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                        • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                          Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                          @snosrapkungfu I think of the Sworn Soldier series of novellas by T. Kingfisher more as horror than fantasy, but the publisher classifies them as fantasy: https://us.macmillan.com/series/swornsoldier _What Moves the Dead_ is the first in the series. They're all inspired by various classic horror stories, and the "sworn soldier" gender of the main character is one of seven that are socially and linguistically recognized in the character's home country.

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                          • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                            Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                            @snosrapkungfu I recommend @vicorva 's Non Player Character which is a beautiful cozy fantasy book with a nonbinary protagonist and lots of diversity throughout!

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                            • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                              Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                              @snosrapkungfu Vi Corva's books are really lovely, Non-Player Character for sure! A ttrpg isekai with thought put into folks' upkeep medications.
                              Becky Chambers' Monk & Robot series has a really well-treated nonbinary main character (though after writing this I remembered it's more on the sci-fi side of the aisle).
                              Casey Blair's Tea Princess Chronicles has a nonbinary side character introduced in the second book (and a trans man from the first).
                              T Kingfisher's had some great characters, the white rat lawyer is so nice.
                              Olivia Atwater has genderfluid/agender angels in Small Miracles which was a delight.

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                                @snosrapkungfu Vi Corva's books are really lovely, Non-Player Character for sure! A ttrpg isekai with thought put into folks' upkeep medications.
                                Becky Chambers' Monk & Robot series has a really well-treated nonbinary main character (though after writing this I remembered it's more on the sci-fi side of the aisle).
                                Casey Blair's Tea Princess Chronicles has a nonbinary side character introduced in the second book (and a trans man from the first).
                                T Kingfisher's had some great characters, the white rat lawyer is so nice.
                                Olivia Atwater has genderfluid/agender angels in Small Miracles which was a delight.

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                                @snosrapkungfu Also, Rebecca Thorne's Tomes & Tea series has a great nonbinary side character (who's getting their own novella soon!)

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                                • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                                  Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                                  @snosrapkungfu Children's magical-world fantasy like Wonderland and Oz rather than high fantasy, so not casting spells, but
                                  Chick The Cherub of "John Dough and the Cherub" (1906).

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                                  • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                                    Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                                    @snosrapkungfu there's a non-binary lawyer-priest in T Kingfisher's Swordheart and I think they show up in other World of the White Rat books.

                                    Pretty sure one of the POV characters in Mike Brooks' Black Coast and sequels is NB but it's a fantasy society with five standard genders so I may be misremembering. Outstanding modern epic fantasy either way.

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                                    • scholar_farmer@zirk.usS scholar_farmer@zirk.us

                                      @snosrapkungfu T. Kingfisher's Swordheart series and Becky Chambers' Wayfarer series (e.g. The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet) both have strong enby characters. And Martha Wells Murderbot Diaries -- it was a shock to me when Apple TV gendered the main character

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                                      @scholar_farmer @snosrapkungfu

                                      If I recall correctly, T.Kingfisher's "What Moves the Dead" / Sworn Soldier series also has a non-binary or at least gender-neutral protagonist.

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                                      • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                                        Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                                        @snosrapkungfu
                                        My novel, Planting Life in a Dying City, has an entire city of nonbinary folks -- the culture doesn't recognize gender.

                                        IIRC @Rowyn has several books with enby characters. The ones I remember are side characters, don't know if that makes a difference.

                                        I see someone mentioned @vicorva

                                        I believe @andyb has several enby characters in Harmony of Falling Snow, but it's been a while since I read it and not recalling specifics.

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                                        • snosrapkungfu@mastodon.socialS snosrapkungfu@mastodon.social

                                          Trying to find six sci-fi and fantasy novels with enby characters and i had it in my head to find three and three but dang there's a lot more of us in spaceships than there are casting spells πŸ™‚ anyone got any suggestions ? #enby #nonbinary please boost

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                                          @snosrapkungfu ah! I see you have found RootWyrm's Theory of Modern LGBTQIA+ Fantasy Writing! (or is it a law? Either way.)

                                          To wit: when your characters have access to magic, nobody has to worry about 'passing' or transitioning. They can just do it.

                                          (This is not necessarily a bad thing.)

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