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"Ellis" is a new one 🤷🏼‍♀️

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  • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

    @munin @alice maybe it's just a regional thing but here in Toronto people frequently tell me "oh I've never seen that name before" after struggling to pronounce it, regardless if english is their native language or not.

    it's a fairly archaic name at this point, peaking around 1910. it had a bit of a resurgence in the 2000s but nowhere near what it was. it's pretty much relegated to "grandma name" at this point, and I say that with affection (obviously) lol

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    @AmyZenunim @munin @alice I can understand not knowing anyone named Alice but… is Alice in Wonderland not part enough of pop culture that people would still be exposed to it from that alone

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    • amcasari@hachyderm.ioA amcasari@hachyderm.io

      @alice I used to use the name "Batgirl" as my coffee name, and a super wild group of baristas renamed me "FatGrrrl" after making me repeat myself multiple times 🤣

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      @amcasari I still can't think about Batgirl without singing this song.

      https://song.link/s/5UebR77vjap8LVd6eqITiY

      "Batgirl, na na na na nana"

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      • demize@unstable.systemsD demize@unstable.systems

        @AmyZenunim @munin @alice I can understand not knowing anyone named Alice but… is Alice in Wonderland not part enough of pop culture that people would still be exposed to it from that alone

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        @demize you'd think 🤷🏼‍♀️

        @AmyZenunim @munin

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          @CordiallyChloe yeah, I've never met an "Ellis" before. "Alice" isn't a common name, but it's a very well-known one.

          I've also gotten "Alex" before (which is forgivable, as it's rather more common than Alice these days).

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          @alice @CordiallyChloe I've had a classmate named Ellis once, several decades ago. But then I'm in .nl, and 'Ellis' is exactly how one would write 'Alice' from what it sounds like if you know only Dutch and no English.

          People, especially my fellow Dutch people, are also categorically unable to spell my name. I get Wienke, Winke, Wieneke, Nienke, Nynke, Wieteke and, on one memorable occasion, Wynetta (vaguely considering constructing an alter ego with that name).

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          • munin@infosec.exchangeM munin@infosec.exchange

            @CordiallyChloe @alice

            I chose my name very deliberately to be easy to spell - it's spelled exactly as it sounds, there's only one common canonical spelling, and while perhaps not a super common name it's one that a few famous people have had.

            And yet some people have gone thru great effort to spell "Fiona" incorrectly, tho I suspect the one coffee shop person who keeps fucking it up has dyslexia.

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            @munin @CordiallyChloe @alice because i chose a slightly unusual spelling for my name (most ppl around here want to spell me katja) I've gotten used to just spelling it out any time i suspect the other person might be writing it down

            the majority of misspellings of my name I get at this point is ppl reading my name (correctly spelled) and writing it back down somewhere else (wrongly spelled)

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            • demize@unstable.systemsD demize@unstable.systems

              @AmyZenunim @munin @alice I can understand not knowing anyone named Alice but… is Alice in Wonderland not part enough of pop culture that people would still be exposed to it from that alone

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              @demize @AmyZenunim Also baffled that there are people in a primarily English speaking nation who somehow haven't encountered it, either by pop culture or just...being a really popular name?

              I'm guessing it's much less common in Canada and the US? In the UK I'm pretty sure it's been in the top 100 for girls name the entire time I've been alive and at several points been top 25.

              Like, it's never reached the heights of Emily, Sophie, Rebecca, Amy, Lucy...but Alice is still a very "you probably vaguely knew of 2 or 3 of them at school" name to me ^_^;

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              • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

                @alice I want the same that Ellis having

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                @autisticplushy
                It does sound good
                @alice

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  @AmyZenunim @munin yeah, it peaked in percentage around 1890 and in raw numbers around 1910.

                  It is *surprisingly* common on Fedi for some reason though—like every living Alice fled other social media and ended up here.

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                  @alice @AmyZenunim @munin
                  But: Alice in Wonderland. Do people have no literary education?

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                  • petherfile@beige.partyP petherfile@beige.party

                    @alice @AmyZenunim @munin
                    But: Alice in Wonderland. Do people have no literary education?

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                    @petherfile @alice @AmyZenunim

                    Unironically, no, no they do not.

                    There's been some significant problems in literacy in recent years due to a -fantastically- ineffective model of reading pedagogy that's done a horrific disservice to millions of children.

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                    How a flawed idea is teaching millions of kids to be poor readers

                    For decades, schools have taught children the strategies of struggling readers, using a theory about reading that cognitive scientists have repeatedly debunked. And many teachers and parents don't know there's anything wrong with it.

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                    (www.apmreports.org)

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      "Ellis" is a new one 🤷🏼‍♀️

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                      @alice very creative people desperate for an outlet?

                      Where else are they employed these days...

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        "Ellis" is a new one 🤷🏼‍♀️

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                        @alice
                        I get Jennifer every now and then, but one time someome came up with "Junifer"

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