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"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"

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  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #65

    @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

      the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

      the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

      etc

      people forget:

      1. the historical evolution of a country or party
      2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
      3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

      then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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      #66

      @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

      Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

      This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

      All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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      • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

        @benroyce

        Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
        American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

        @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

        horqua@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #67

        @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
        And he’s failed both times!
        What does that say about WTP?

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        • a_minion@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #68

          @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            the answer to

            "i don't do politics"

            is simple:

            "but politics does you

            so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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            #69

            @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            "Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

            (Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

              every state has different rules about who can #vote in the #primary

              you got closed, partially closed, partially open, open to unaffiliated voters, open, multi-party, etc

              it's fucking complicated, and part of our problem with voting in general in the #USA because people are never educated about it and never figure it out

              it still doesn't mean they are free of blame IF THEY DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN THE #PRIMARIES

              educate yourself AND VOTE

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (www.ncsl.org)

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              #70

              @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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              • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                #71

                @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                in party or across party lines

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                  you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                  in party or across party lines

                  scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #72

                  @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                    #73

                    @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                    (My ride is in garage till the ice is gone).

                    What pisses me off is we could have had what they have. The basic economics was in place, people were beginning to do well, even business was making money. We fought for civil right race & sex, education expansion. The right has been fighting ever since FDR to gain total control & bring back the depression. They finally did it.

                    Peace

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                    • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                      Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                      This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                      All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

                      farbel@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #74

                      @the_wub @benroyce @the5thColumnist @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Mexico's full name is Los Estados Unidos de Mexico

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        "Because you know you will survive"

                        most of those cosplaying revolutionary will not survive a real revolution

                        furthermore, revolutions are not bastions of ideological purity. whoever wins could be worse. even if by some miracle something better does win, the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah"

                        toxic idealists who bizarrely defer to revolution are excuse making for their own uselessness

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                        #75

                        @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                        • skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.usS skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.us

                          @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                          They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                          #76

                          @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                          revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                          and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                          none of this excuses our current suffering

                          it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                          and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                            and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                            none of this excuses our current suffering

                            it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                            and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                            #77

                            @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            unfortunately, retreating into a cringe fantasy life is, if not the American dream, then at least the American past time.

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                            • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                              @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                              @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                              • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                in states where you can vote in primaries outside your party, i encourage such sabotage and vandalism. but this is a sideshow. the main game should be declare your party and contribute

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                                • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                  @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                  @horqua @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech In Iowa, you can literally change party the day of the primary, then mail your post card to chargeback the same night.

                                  Regarding that letter, seems like their main point against switching for primary is you can’t switch until after the general, but so what? You can still vote for whomever you want on the ballot, right? I get how that may muck things up a bit for canvassing, soliciting donations, GOTV. Is that the real reason?

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                                  • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                    @horqua @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech In Iowa, you can literally change party the day of the primary, then mail your post card to chargeback the same night.

                                    Regarding that letter, seems like their main point against switching for primary is you can’t switch until after the general, but so what? You can still vote for whomever you want on the ballot, right? I get how that may muck things up a bit for canvassing, soliciting donations, GOTV. Is that the real reason?

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                                    @scottmiller42 @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                    well there is something to be said for putting your honest foot forward so you can build something

                                    your way has value, but it's more like guerilla warfare. rather than what we really need: actual political takeover

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @scottmiller42 @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                      well there is something to be said for putting your honest foot forward so you can build something

                                      your way has value, but it's more like guerilla warfare. rather than what we really need: actual political takeover

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                                      @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech TBF, I’ve never voted in a cross primary, it’s never seemed like the best chance, but if polling was close and I could oust Grassley with someone less despicable, I’d probably do it.

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                                      • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                        @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech TBF, I’ve never voted in a cross primary, it’s never seemed like the best chance, but if polling was close and I could oust Grassley with someone less despicable, I’d probably do it.

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                                        @scottmiller42 @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                        i will never poo poo the idea of fucking with the GOP 😁

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          "Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"

                                          Endless gloom and #doom stories about #Russia's #economy means you can forgive people for being jaded on the topic

                                          They are correct that people saying #collapse is imminent are wrong

                                          But

                                          It's also wrong to conclude that Russia won't collapse

                                          The truth:

                                          It won't be tomorrow

                                          But it also won't be never

                                          Russia is in deep shit

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                                          Russia's economy minister admits 'reserves have largely been used up' while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as GDP shrinks | Fortune

                                          "If you (the government) do not urgently adopt financial, economic and other measures, by ‌autumn a repeat of what happened in ⁠1917 awaits us."

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                                          @benroyce It happens very slowly, slower than anybody thinks it will, then, suddenly, it happens much faster than anybody would believe. -- quoted by memory from someone who has seen those kinds of things, don't remember who.

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