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  3. Sigh. Sometimes I feel like I spend half my advocating for trans mascs and men just pointing out we exist.

Sigh. Sometimes I feel like I spend half my advocating for trans mascs and men just pointing out we exist.

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  • melezioh@mstdn.gamesM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sigh. Sometimes I feel like I spend half my advocating for trans mascs and men just pointing out we exist. Then sometimes/often people get upset I point out we exist.

    If your point/take/argument doesn’t work when you acknowledge we exist then it is not actually a good point/take/argument.

    Trans mascs and man exist and often are big feminists, having been perceived as girls and women for many years.

    People also seem to like to pretend we did not live a life perceived as female, like it never happened.

    When we point out we exist it’s to help you do better not to rain on your parade.

    We often can get pregnant and so the government tries to control our bodies in that way, doctors may be misogynistic to us because we were afab, phobes see us as flawed women.

    We are men or masc so generalizing about men or masculine people includes us.

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    • melezioh@mstdn.gamesM melezioh@mstdn.games

      Sigh. Sometimes I feel like I spend half my advocating for trans mascs and men just pointing out we exist. Then sometimes/often people get upset I point out we exist.

      If your point/take/argument doesn’t work when you acknowledge we exist then it is not actually a good point/take/argument.

      Trans mascs and man exist and often are big feminists, having been perceived as girls and women for many years.

      People also seem to like to pretend we did not live a life perceived as female, like it never happened.

      When we point out we exist it’s to help you do better not to rain on your parade.

      We often can get pregnant and so the government tries to control our bodies in that way, doctors may be misogynistic to us because we were afab, phobes see us as flawed women.

      We are men or masc so generalizing about men or masculine people includes us.

      elenyafinwe@todon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
      elenyafinwe@todon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Melezioh denying the existence of (trans)misandry is in itself a phenomenon of this kind of discrimination. Somehow a lot of people seem to think that transmascs and men automatically get male privileged the moment they come out as masc/men, ignoring the fact, that
      a) we are still trans and get discriminated for that
      b) we may look like this:

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      • elenyafinwe@todon.nlE elenyafinwe@todon.nl

        @Melezioh denying the existence of (trans)misandry is in itself a phenomenon of this kind of discrimination. Somehow a lot of people seem to think that transmascs and men automatically get male privileged the moment they come out as masc/men, ignoring the fact, that
        a) we are still trans and get discriminated for that
        b) we may look like this:

        melezioh@mstdn.gamesM This user is from outside of this forum
        melezioh@mstdn.gamesM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @elenyafinwe for sure. There’s definitely a pattern of assumption that we all pass as cis males and gain full male privilege and somehow that wipes out that we are trans. Many do not and may not want to pass. They also erase that we have long lived experience as presenting female and still may be able to get pregnant. It’s tiring.

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        • melezioh@mstdn.gamesM melezioh@mstdn.games

          @elenyafinwe for sure. There’s definitely a pattern of assumption that we all pass as cis males and gain full male privilege and somehow that wipes out that we are trans. Many do not and may not want to pass. They also erase that we have long lived experience as presenting female and still may be able to get pregnant. It’s tiring.

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          @Melezioh a trans man getting denies access to birth control and pregancy care, because he's a man, is very much transmisandry and potentially deadly. It's that simple. But some people absolutely refuse to think that far because ewww man, he deserves it or whatever.

          Thanks for nothing, you great "feminists". Imho it's nonl feminism if it doesn't include absolutely everyone.

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          • elenyafinwe@todon.nlE elenyafinwe@todon.nl

            @Melezioh a trans man getting denies access to birth control and pregancy care, because he's a man, is very much transmisandry and potentially deadly. It's that simple. But some people absolutely refuse to think that far because ewww man, he deserves it or whatever.

            Thanks for nothing, you great "feminists". Imho it's nonl feminism if it doesn't include absolutely everyone.

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            @elenyafinwe agreed. Honestly you’re not really a feminist if you’re leaving people behind. You’re still a tool of the patriarchy then.

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            • melezioh@mstdn.gamesM melezioh@mstdn.games

              @elenyafinwe agreed. Honestly you’re not really a feminist if you’re leaving people behind. You’re still a tool of the patriarchy then.

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              @Melezioh 💯

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