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  • howtheyvoteeu@eupolicy.socialH howtheyvoteeu@eupolicy.social

    @aetios @Tutanota The link I posted was the final vote in plenary, that ultimately failed. The screenshot above is from the vote on Amendment 35, which you can find on our site under the amendment section of the final vote. Hope this clarifies things 🤗

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    @HowTheyVoteEU @aetios @Tutanota

    Looks like you need to find the "Amendments" section at top of [1] to find Amendment 34 (Am 34) [2], which passed by 307 vs 306. IIUC, Am 34 put strong restrictions requiring specific justification to justify spying, and forbidding spying that bypasses E2EE.

    IIUC, if the vote on the overall Regulation (EU) 2021/1232 had passed, then thanks to Am 34, the regulation would have hypothetically been weakened.

    [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2026-0040_EN.html
    [2] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2026-0040-AM-004-006_EN.pdf

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    • laurielle@mastodon.artL laurielle@mastodon.art

      @Tutanota This is great! Question, where are you getting the picture from? I'm checking the EU website and the difference seems to be quite bigger that 1 MP (lucky us) https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2026-0040_EN.html#_section4

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      @Laurielle

      that's all gibberish in this report.

      seriously, who understand that convoluted crap?

      @Tutanota

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      • lumiukko@metalhead.clubL lumiukko@metalhead.club

        @HowTheyVoteEU @aetios @Tutanota Another question: Where do you get the title for a proposition from? I couldn't find it on the europarl website, and I thought it is pretty strange to add the purpose of a proposal (here: to "combat online child sexual abuse") in the title.

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        @lumiukko Great question! It’s the official title of the legislative procedure the vote belongs to: https://oeil.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/en/procedure-file?reference=2025/0429(COD)

        We use that as a fall-back, until all data from Parliament has been uploaded. This is also why you might see this changing at some point.

        We don’t editorialize titles or hand-pick them.

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        • laurielle@mastodon.artL laurielle@mastodon.art

          @Tutanota This is great! Question, where are you getting the picture from? I'm checking the EU website and the difference seems to be quite bigger that 1 MP (lucky us) https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2026-0040_EN.html#_section4

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          @Laurielle AM34 passed with 307 votes and the final text only got 228. The 80 votes lost (mostly among Greens, Left, Renew) were presumably people who voted for the amendment not because they liked it but because they knew EPP wouldn't like it. 157 MEPs in the EPP voted against the amendment and 137 ended up voting against the final text once it passed.

          Cf. https://framapiaf.org/@boud/116295844606323488

          #EUpolicy #ChatControl

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            You did it! 🥳

            European Parliament just decided that Chat Control 1.0 must stop.

            This means on April 6, 2026, Gmail, LinkedIn, Microsoft and other Big Techs must stop scanning your private messages in the EU. #PrivacyWins 💪

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            @Tutanota At least until they want to try again, they're pretty relentless about pushing snooping charters through.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              Check the decision of your MP by our friends at @HowTheyVoteEU https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189270

              Here's the story of HowTheyVoteEU & why they use Tuta: https://tuta.com/blog/open-source-spotlight-howtheyvoteeu

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              @Tutanota @HowTheyVoteEU
              Je remarque : beaucoup d'élus français ont voté pour 🤬
              Étonnament, Knafo s'est abstenue.
              Glucksmann n'a pas voté 🙄
              Morano a voté contre 🤔

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Check the decision of your MP by our friends at @HowTheyVoteEU https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189270

                Here's the story of HowTheyVoteEU & why they use Tuta: https://tuta.com/blog/open-source-spotlight-howtheyvoteeu

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                @Tutanota Pretty sure that first link is a different case

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                • weirdmustard@cyberpunk.lolW weirdmustard@cyberpunk.lol

                  @Tutanota Pretty sure that first link is a different case

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                  @Tutanota Either that or the numbers in the first pic are wrong

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Check the decision of your MP by our friends at @HowTheyVoteEU https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189270

                    Here's the story of HowTheyVoteEU & why they use Tuta: https://tuta.com/blog/open-source-spotlight-howtheyvoteeu

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                    @Tutanota @HowTheyVoteEU
                    I imagine it would be complicated, but it would be really useful to have a list of elected representatives who didn't vote like most of their party.

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      You did it! 🥳

                      European Parliament just decided that Chat Control 1.0 must stop.

                      This means on April 6, 2026, Gmail, LinkedIn, Microsoft and other Big Techs must stop scanning your private messages in the EU. #PrivacyWins 💪

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                      @Tutanota By one vote!

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                      • vwbusguy@mastodon.onlineV vwbusguy@mastodon.online

                        @Tutanota By one vote!

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                        @vwbusguy Not quite, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                        And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                        • weirdmustard@cyberpunk.lolW weirdmustard@cyberpunk.lol

                          @Tutanota Either that or the numbers in the first pic are wrong

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                          @weirdmustard Yes, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                          And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                          • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                            @Tutanota I'm happy and incredibly disappointed that it hadn't passed by just ONE.

                            This is frightening that it has so much support.

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                            @The_Universality Not quite, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                            https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                            And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                            • laurielle@mastodon.artL laurielle@mastodon.art

                              @Tutanota This is great! Question, where are you getting the picture from? I'm checking the EU website and the difference seems to be quite bigger that 1 MP (lucky us) https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2026-0040_EN.html#_section4

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                              @Laurielle Yes, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                              https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                              And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                              • adriano@lile.clA adriano@lile.cl

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/116295357295296383

                                One vote. By ONE FUCKING VOTE.

                                (Now, I don't know if the vote was a "yes for chat control" and it needed more than a simple majority to pass, or if it was a "no for chat control" and the yes votes just scraped by. Those are very different things. But still.)

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                                @adriano Not quite, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                                https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                                And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                                • synnef@woof.techS synnef@woof.tech

                                  @Tutanota by a difference of ONE MP?????

                                  ...that was close but good job everyone

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                                  @synnef Not quite, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                                  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                                  And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                    @synnef Not quite, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                                    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                                    And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                                    @Tutanota i have read up on it, thanks for the clarification! it's still impressive (and kind of funny) that that specific vote came out successful by *1* vote though

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      You did it! 🥳

                                      European Parliament just decided that Chat Control 1.0 must stop.

                                      This means on April 6, 2026, Gmail, LinkedIn, Microsoft and other Big Techs must stop scanning your private messages in the EU. #PrivacyWins 💪

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                                      @Tutanota "You did it!" until they decide that 3rd time's the charm.

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                                      • nemobis@mamot.frN nemobis@mamot.fr

                                        @Laurielle AM34 passed with 307 votes and the final text only got 228. The 80 votes lost (mostly among Greens, Left, Renew) were presumably people who voted for the amendment not because they liked it but because they knew EPP wouldn't like it. 157 MEPs in the EPP voted against the amendment and 137 ended up voting against the final text once it passed.

                                        Cf. https://framapiaf.org/@boud/116295844606323488

                                        #EUpolicy #ChatControl

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                                        @nemobis Thanks!

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          @Laurielle Yes, there were two votes, sorry we got that mixed up when posting. Please check here for a detailed explanation of what happened:
                                          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646

                                          And here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/end-of-chat-control-eu-parliament-stops-mass-surveillance-in-voting-thriller-paving-the-way-for-genuine-child-protection/

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                                          @Tutanota Thank you kindly!

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