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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    nobody confident in their own abilities is panicking

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    the people who are panicking are signaling.

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    @Viss I think I would panic if this were my role - but mostly because of a general "AI" problem, which is that it eliminates tasks needed to give new people experience and ways to grow in to their role

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      @krypt3ia @0xtero then the business will burn down, so get your shorts and puts ready

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      @Viss @0xtero Uh huhhh, and how many have burned down so far after epic pwn and leaks?

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      • namnatulco@sueden.socialN namnatulco@sueden.social

        @Viss I think I would panic if this were my role - but mostly because of a general "AI" problem, which is that it eliminates tasks needed to give new people experience and ways to grow in to their role

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        @Viss (admittedly I'm also not at all confident in my ability, except for the brief moments I have to deal some of the stuff actual vendors ship to actual customers, but that's another story)

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        • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

          @0xtero @Viss But, they get paid half or a quarter of what you do… Do the maths.

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          @krypt3ia @Viss sure I get the business side of of it - from the quarterly reporting point of view - but I'm also pretty sure that the investment costs and real running costs for these models will, at some point, be transferred to their customers. So in the end, they might actually end up being more expensive than I am.

          But of course, the quarterly reporting model doesn't care about that.

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          • namnatulco@sueden.socialN namnatulco@sueden.social

            @Viss I think I would panic if this were my role - but mostly because of a general "AI" problem, which is that it eliminates tasks needed to give new people experience and ways to grow in to their role

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            #74

            @Namnatulco assuming it works

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            • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

              @Viss @0xtero Uh huhhh, and how many have burned down so far after epic pwn and leaks?

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              #75

              @krypt3ia @0xtero pwns and leaks are an insurance problem. talent leaving is an ops issue. when the shit breaks, nobody will be there to fix it. when the new shit gets written, it wont work. it becomes sand in the gears

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                nobody confident in their own abilities is panicking

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                Infosec community panics over Anthropic Claude Code Security

                ai-pocalypse: Not the first of its kind

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                (www.theregister.com)

                the people who are panicking are signaling.

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                #76

                @Viss Having used some static code analyzers in the past, I have to honestly wonder if it can be worse than current ones.

                The ones I've used were a festival of false positives to the point of being almost worthless.

                (and I am not for using AI in any way...it's just they were that bad...)

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                • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                  @krypt3ia @Viss sure I get the business side of of it - from the quarterly reporting point of view - but I'm also pretty sure that the investment costs and real running costs for these models will, at some point, be transferred to their customers. So in the end, they might actually end up being more expensive than I am.

                  But of course, the quarterly reporting model doesn't care about that.

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                  #77

                  @0xtero @krypt3ia there was a pic i saw recently where a ceo type was saying "hey why do all my engineers suddenly cost an extra 2 grand a day in tokens?"

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                  • zombie042@infosec.exchangeZ zombie042@infosec.exchange

                    @Viss Having used some static code analyzers in the past, I have to honestly wonder if it can be worse than current ones.

                    The ones I've used were a festival of false positives to the point of being almost worthless.

                    (and I am not for using AI in any way...it's just they were that bad...)

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                    #78

                    @zombie042 well its a mixed bag. It is measurably useful and it does actually find stuff - but if you cannot tell yourself that what its showing you is bullshit, theres no way to tell the wheat from the chaff. so unless these things are being driven by people who can tell, shits gonna get ugly really fast

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      @krypt3ia @0xtero pwns and leaks are an insurance problem. talent leaving is an ops issue. when the shit breaks, nobody will be there to fix it. when the new shit gets written, it wont work. it becomes sand in the gears

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                      #79

                      @Viss @0xtero I eagerly await the final meltdown, but, I doubt it will happen, and if it does, no one in charge will be culpable.

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