nobody confident in their own abilities is panicking

[krypt3ia@infosec.exchange]

@Viss Here is where you should be concerned though, the idiots in charge who do not understand how LLM's work, or how well they work, or, more to the point, don't work.

It's all been a sales campaign to sell the notion that they don't need people. Just replace them with an AI.

It's gonna take some time before the gen pop has the large enough fails from doing so, that they will wake the fuck up.

[danielkennedy74@infosec.exchange]

@Viss Panic is too strong. I am concerned about the folks who don’t understand any of these security products, who have never tried to use a LLM to do anything beyond chat prompts, but nonetheless have some decision making power that can affect enterprise information security, listening to any of this stuff and making decisions.

[cjust@infosec.exchange]

@Viss normally - I'm all for a session of "Let's watch Kurtz & company squirm" because of their shitty past behaviour and righteous clusterfucks they've overseen at McAfee and Crowdstrike.

However - even as jaded as I am with regards to these folks - even I don't think that they earned or deserved that flak.

Just another indication that people who have no knowledge about the infosec or AI industry are investing billions of dollars into something they don't understand and are just as apt to yank funding because of panic.

And it's going to get worse as the AI bubble pops - and it will.

Sad part is - it was never the folks at the top who suffered when the dot com bubble or the sub prime mortgage bubble burst - all the execs seemed to have hand crafted artisanal golden parachutes ready made for when excrement met fan.

No - it's the little folks who ended up paying for it - in terms of their savings or 401K or what have you getting decimated as congress shuffled funds to subsidize these "too big to fail" entities that did just that.

And that's what will happen again with all this AI hype - albeit at a larger scale this time, and it's going to be the little folks footing the bill for the techbro enabled hubris that has brought us to the brink yet again.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@cjust with any luck enough of the system will break

[jackryder@infosec.exchange]

@Viss

According to the AI developer, Claude Code Security is context-aware - as opposed to simply doing static code analysis. It "reads and reasons about your code the way a human security researcher would: understanding how components interact, tracing how data moves through your application, and catching complex vulnerabilities that rule-based tools miss," the company said.

It's really hard to tell the difference between a human and the masterful work of our friend Claude.

[jackryder@infosec.exchange]

@krypt3ia @Viss Don't you think we will experience some benefit for the sheer speed at which these systems fail?

The "dot com" bubble-burst seems annual at this stage and I don't think a lot of young people are looking at the industry with quite the same wide-eyed wonder they did in the past. We've got decades of bitter and jaded "consultant" trying to carve out a living since companies have "trimmed the fat". It's dangerous to install anything using npm and even curl is closing up their bounty board due to the sheer swell of AI-slop.

Enshittification is a tidal wave, but at least it'll be quick? Maybe?

[paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange]

@Viss

i've spent most of my career knowing i'd need to get my resume to the hiring manager and bypass HR if i wanted to have any chance of not getting "screened". most HR spend no more effort trying to understand position requirements than netflix spent on it's "recommended" algorithms.

LLM resume reviews will be that bad or worse. burn it all down.

[krypt3ia@infosec.exchange]

@jackryder @Viss Time will tell

[catsalad@infosec.exchange]

@Viss Panic! At the Infosec?

[viss@mastodon.social]

@catsalad surely it would be (kernel)panic at the cisco

[jackryder@infosec.exchange]

@catsalad @Viss
I chime in with a "Haven't you people ever heard of commenting your goddamn code? No..."

[viss@mastodon.social]

@jackryder @catsalad dat fallout boy doe

[insidertreat@infosec.exchange]

@Viss @catsalad y'all write jokes, not tragedies.

[jackryder@infosec.exchange]

@Viss @catsalad
Wrong Fallout but still kind of cool.

[jackryder@infosec.exchange]

@InsiderTreat @Viss @catsalad

Thnks fr th Xmms

[acdha@code4lib.social]

@krypt3ia @Viss That's my prediction: intense executive pressure is going to lead to a lot of budget being blown on vendors, and then people who're being asked to do more with less will run the risk of being scapegoated when it doesn't work as well as it did in the demo.

Not a new story in infosec but it's cranked up to 11 this time…

[krypt3ia@infosec.exchange]

@acdha @Viss Ayup. I also think there is a fair amount of automation that is happening as well that leads to less need for headcount, but this AI shit is out of hand.

[da_667@infosec.exchange]

@Viss this is the "appsec is gonna save cybersecurity" shit all over again.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@acdha @krypt3ia my one hope is that all the yolo types, the ones who lied on their resumes to get infosec jobs, who cannot function without having to google everything or rely on a chatbot to do their jobs for them will have to admit defeat and crawl back to starbucks or wherever it is they came from

[da_667@infosec.exchange]

@Viss 5-10 years ago, companies that did appsec assessments were beating themselves off about how writing better code was gonna eliminate cybersecurity and yet, we're still here.