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  • christianrickert@23.socialC christianrickert@23.social

    @pheonix

    AI-generated content shares a lot of qualities with ultra-processed food.

    Because the product is now advertisement, the "content" does not really matter anymore. The content is just there to keep you engaged and come back for more.

    I think everything that gives you cancer should automatically be tagged with a flag.

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    @christianrickert If you don't mind me, I'll borrow this equivalence with ultra-processed food because it sounds just about right.

    It's just like fast food in that it feels like real food, but is engineered to be super palatable, optimized for long shelf-life and often lack the nutritional value of whole foods.

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    • toni@zug.networkT toni@zug.network

      @pheonix It is *so* annoying.

      Duckduckgo has a no ai search, which works as well as you’d expect. This morning, I heard of an artist and wanted to see more examples of his work. Even with “AI: hide,” about one in five images came from domains that seem dedicated to generating slop “in the style of” an artist.
      And yeah, I could see the difference between flat art nouveau and shaded slop, but I shouldn’t need to waste my very limited energy on that.

      I tagged those to ddg, hope they’ll shit list those domains.

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      @toni I didn't know about the no ai duckduckgo variant so thanks for bringing it up! 😍

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      • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

        @christianrickert If you don't mind me, I'll borrow this equivalence with ultra-processed food because it sounds just about right.

        It's just like fast food in that it feels like real food, but is engineered to be super palatable, optimized for long shelf-life and often lack the nutritional value of whole foods.

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        @pheonix Go for it!

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        • growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG growfediverse@dillyofapickle.com
          @pheonix Right? Like at this rate how about we watch AI sports, where instead of paying human competitors we just see generated video of fictional humanoids in made up Olympics 🤪
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          @growfediverse LOL. Forget actual sports - at this point, someday they'll also be like - instead of you playing video games let your AI play and win for you 😂

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          • cloudhands@mstdn.caC cloudhands@mstdn.ca

            @pheonix I’m seeing certain outlets proclaim themselves AI free, which is great, and I think we’ll be seeing more of this practice.

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            @cloudhands A differentiator which will be a USP probably from next year onwards 🤞

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            • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

              @hugoestr @pheonix Is there any law or ethics rule that AI content must be labeled as such?🤔 It not, it’s just another part of the being hose process that is ongoing in our capitalist state of existence.

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              @Huntn00 @hugoestr There should be some sort of mechanism to auto-tag content which was generated by a LLM at this point. Even major news outlets maybe using these bots for what we know!

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              • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                @toni I didn't know about the no ai duckduckgo variant so thanks for bringing it up! 😍

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                @pheonix Sure, happy to have helped. 🙂
                I’ve added the URL to my original post, to make it easier for others who might stumble over it.

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                • toni@zug.networkT toni@zug.network

                  @pheonix It is *so* annoying.

                  Duckduckgo has a no ai search, which works as well as you’d expect. This morning, I heard of an artist and wanted to see more examples of his work. Even with “AI: hide,” about one in five images came from domains that seem dedicated to generating slop “in the style of” an artist.
                  And yeah, I could see the difference between flat art nouveau and shaded slop, but I shouldn’t need to waste my very limited energy on that.

                  I tagged those to ddg, hope they’ll shit list those domains.

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                  @toni @pheonix This is because DuckDuckGo only uses a block-list to filter out sites that post primarily AI images. They can't actually tell what images are AI in a reasonable amount of time/processing. So some will get through.

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                  • jessieimproved@hachyderm.ioJ jessieimproved@hachyderm.io

                    @toni @pheonix This is because DuckDuckGo only uses a block-list to filter out sites that post primarily AI images. They can't actually tell what images are AI in a reasonable amount of time/processing. So some will get through.

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                    @JessieImproved @pheonix I suspected as much. That’s why I tagged images from craiyon, midjourneyart etc.

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                    • growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG growfediverse@dillyofapickle.com
                      @pheonix Right? Like at this rate how about we watch AI sports, where instead of paying human competitors we just see generated video of fictional humanoids in made up Olympics 🤪
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                      #18

                      @pheonix Seriously though. We should actively start talking about replacing athletes with GenAI. Watch how big mad the sportsball people will get 🤣 But observe the merits:

                      - Watching AI athletes is safer for humans. No risks of injury to people.

                      - It's cheaper for humans. We can cut all the public spending on school sports programs and publicly funded arenas

                      - It's better quality, the AI athletes will never trip, miss their jumps, fumble a ball, or slip on surfaces.

                      - It's cheaper and faster to produce. Training human athletes takes years and specialized equipment, and only happens at the rate humans can gave babies. AI can crank out millions of atheletes and teams in seconds.

                      - AI refs will never make mistakes either. In fact they and coaches can just be abstracted away and eliminated entirely because the rules and strategy of the game will be part of the AI agent players.

                      Or maybe putting AI in everything is an annoying idea #NoAI #enshittifaction #AISlop #GenAI

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                      • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                        I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                        I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                        Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                        This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                        #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                        @pheonix 💯 agree

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                        • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                          I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                          I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                          Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                          This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                          #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                          @pheonix I feel like it might now be easier to ask for people to tag “no AI was involved” than tag the AI stuff.

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                          • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                            I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                            I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                            Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                            This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                            #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                            @pheonix #BoycottAI

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                            • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                              I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                              I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                              Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                              This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                              #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                              @pheonix I participated in a virtual meeting late last year and the subject of AI/LLM came up. I expressed my multiple objections to the dreck that it is. One of the participants mentioned a way to tag things 'human created'. I didn't follow up at the time. It appears they may have been talking about notbyai.com?

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                              • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                                I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                                I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                                Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                                This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                                #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                                @pheonix

                                Filter number one for (auto-)tagging: Does the text contain spelling errors or editing mistakes?
                                Number two: Count the fingers.
                                Number three: Exuberant writing or telling style.

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                                • growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG growfediverse@dillyofapickle.com

                                  @pheonix Seriously though. We should actively start talking about replacing athletes with GenAI. Watch how big mad the sportsball people will get 🤣 But observe the merits:

                                  - Watching AI athletes is safer for humans. No risks of injury to people.

                                  - It's cheaper for humans. We can cut all the public spending on school sports programs and publicly funded arenas

                                  - It's better quality, the AI athletes will never trip, miss their jumps, fumble a ball, or slip on surfaces.

                                  - It's cheaper and faster to produce. Training human athletes takes years and specialized equipment, and only happens at the rate humans can gave babies. AI can crank out millions of atheletes and teams in seconds.

                                  - AI refs will never make mistakes either. In fact they and coaches can just be abstracted away and eliminated entirely because the rules and strategy of the game will be part of the AI agent players.

                                  Or maybe putting AI in everything is an annoying idea #NoAI #enshittifaction #AISlop #GenAI

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                                  @growfediverse @pheonix

                                  In terms of turning the general populace against Gen AI, that proposal might work. Sports have lots of time and cost investments, and this proposal would have all those people, children and their supportive parents and peers, rally against your awful proposal, as their sunk costs (no fallacy here, move along in an orderly fashion) would have the marching down the streets pretty quick. What if we did to sports what we are doing to workers?

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                                  • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                                    I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                                    I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                                    Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                                    This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                                    #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                                    @pheonix We need something crowd-sourced like SponsorBlock, but for AI content.

                                    It has its issues, especially with false positives being super damaging to actuall artists you want to support, but at this point, I'd love to have something like that.

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                                      @pheonix

                                      Agreed. I like to read personal blogs, and what I hate is taking the time to read something that sounds interesting, and then realizing about two paragraphs in that it’s AI. Like it’s trying so hard to pretend it’s real writing, but losing the human composition cues to keep it up for long-form writing. It starts to sound robotic, repeating things, talking too much about a topic, too wordy, saying weird phrases not native to human conversation, etc.

                                      It reminds me of when the scourge of SEO hit the internet. Bloggers wanted to increase visitors to their sites by keeping to the top of Google search, so they abandoned writing organically and only wrote in a way to appease the SEO algorithm. This led to the deterioration of writing quality of blogs and good, creative personal blogs got buried to the back of Google search under all the SEO slop.

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                                      • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                                        @christianrickert If you don't mind me, I'll borrow this equivalence with ultra-processed food because it sounds just about right.

                                        It's just like fast food in that it feels like real food, but is engineered to be super palatable, optimized for long shelf-life and often lack the nutritional value of whole foods.

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                                        @pheonix @christianrickert

                                        "Highly processed" does not automatically mean unhealthy or bad, as there are certainly nutrient-rich and healthy options, such as plant-based milk. 😉

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                                        • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                                          I'm so tired. People, I am not interested in reading *blogs* generated with claude, gemini or chatgpt. No, not even ones proofread by AI. Do it yourself. I do not wish to even accidentally click on "one-shotted" dummy projects. Don't show me your AI-generated analysis of anything. Above all, I do not wish to see images/artwork someone prompt created.

                                          I value real content, with all its good and bad quirks, from actual human beings.

                                          Somebody please normalize auto-tagging of AI generated content across all formats - text, images and code so I can blanket ban them from my personal computer.

                                          This is a plead for help I never thought I'll have to make.

                                          #noai #enshittification #writing #bookstodon #reading #books #quotes #quote #cybersec #mentalhealth #adhd #art #cooking #blog #indieweb

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                                          @pheonix
                                          Hear! Hear!

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