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  • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

    @Viss Now monetize with ads

    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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    @krypt3ia grooooooss

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      @krypt3ia grooooooss

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      @Viss @krypt3ia I paid for the patreon releases, so I get them ad-free.

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        spicy opinion:

        one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

        you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

        its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

        boo.

        sawaba@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @Viss not even as spicy as your least spicy Etsy offering

        Just common sense

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        • deftpunk@fosstodon.orgD deftpunk@fosstodon.org

          @Viss This is true for *any* communication. Why should anyone expend effort reading something someone else can't be bothered to write?

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          @deftpunk I get slop at work sometimes where the slopper hasn’t even read their own slop. If they cant be arsed to read it, I sure as fuck can’t.
          @Viss

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            spicy opinion:

            one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

            you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

            its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

            boo.

            jawnsy@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @Viss it could be a fun party game to make people present slop generated presentations that someone else created, though

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              spicy opinion:

              one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

              you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

              its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

              boo.

              doctorlaura@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #27

              @Viss On the other hand, one of my team members is a big Nano Banana user. We both spent about an hour trying to get it to fix an image for a presentation we were making.
              We got the image from a partner and it was the wrong style. An hour for one image! We lost count of the prompts. Couldn’t make it work, so I just used some basic Powerpoint art to fix it. Took less than 5 min.

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              • doctorlaura@mastodon.socialD doctorlaura@mastodon.social

                @Viss On the other hand, one of my team members is a big Nano Banana user. We both spent about an hour trying to get it to fix an image for a presentation we were making.
                We got the image from a partner and it was the wrong style. An hour for one image! We lost count of the prompts. Couldn’t make it work, so I just used some basic Powerpoint art to fix it. Took less than 5 min.

                viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @doctorlaura this is exactly what i mean. if anything, these llms are just a really really expensive way to talk out a thing youre working through and you end up solving the problem yourself. i've done similar with networking configs and some code stuff. little to none of the image generators output is "good". its only 'good' if youre actually looking for high-confidence word salad

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  spicy opinion:

                  one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

                  you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

                  its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

                  boo.

                  xenotrope@bsd.networkX This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #29

                  @Viss I recently attended a talk given by a person whose slides were chalk-a-block with abstract Midjounrney slop images and not one but two different "Who I Am Not" slides at the front.

                  I thought "No, that's too broad. Maybe just tell us who you are."

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                  • xenotrope@bsd.networkX xenotrope@bsd.network

                    @Viss I recently attended a talk given by a person whose slides were chalk-a-block with abstract Midjounrney slop images and not one but two different "Who I Am Not" slides at the front.

                    I thought "No, that's too broad. Maybe just tell us who you are."

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                    #30

                    @xenotrope shoulda walked out

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      @xenotrope shoulda walked out

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                      #31

                      @Viss I'm too polite

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        spicy opinion:

                        one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

                        you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

                        its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

                        boo.

                        jeantranscene@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #32

                        @Viss I don't think this has anything to do with AI. Nobody really I cares how the presentation was created if the content is good and if the presence of a human presenter actually enhance it. AI is a tool, using it have nothing to do with the respect one may have or not have for his/her audience. AI doesn't make a bad presentation good or a good one bad.
                        There's more worthy battles to be had regarding AI.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          spicy opinion:

                          one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

                          you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

                          its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

                          boo.

                          mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Viss

                          Long ago and far away, a guy named Scott McNealy banned the use of PowerPoint...

                          (Imagine 12.9 gigabytes!)

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            @Viss

                            Long ago and far away, a guy named Scott McNealy banned the use of PowerPoint...

                            (Imagine 12.9 gigabytes!)

                            Link Preview Image
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                            @mastodonmigration @Viss I've worked with PMs who use PowerPoint like a canvas and bullshit is their brush. They know obscure and esoteric PowerPoint tricks the way accountants know crazy Excel tricks.

                            One guy I know has a huge color picker bolted onto the side of every slide deck. He leaves it in because painters don't hide their palettes, now, do they?

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @Viss

                              Long ago and far away, a guy named Scott McNealy banned the use of PowerPoint...

                              (Imagine 12.9 gigabytes!)

                              Link Preview Image
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                              @mastodonmigration @Viss In an alternate universe this ban didn’t exist and employees made a PowerPoint presentations about how commercialise cloud computing and embrace the Linux and x86 platforms much sooner.
                              RIP Sun

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                              • xenotrope@bsd.networkX xenotrope@bsd.network

                                @mastodonmigration @Viss I've worked with PMs who use PowerPoint like a canvas and bullshit is their brush. They know obscure and esoteric PowerPoint tricks the way accountants know crazy Excel tricks.

                                One guy I know has a huge color picker bolted onto the side of every slide deck. He leaves it in because painters don't hide their palettes, now, do they?

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                                @xenotrope @mastodonmigration @Viss I wanted that color thingy for years now YEARS!! But I'm not a PowerPoint artist.

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  spicy opinion:

                                  one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

                                  you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

                                  its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

                                  boo.

                                  negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Viss
                                  I was at one of these where the presenter

                                  a) did not know how many slides there were
                                  b) did not know how long his talk would take
                                  c) frequently spoke about something, then moved to the next slide to find that thing was on the next slide and was surprised

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                    @OchmennoPodcast the argument quickly becomes:

                                    if you didnt care to make your own slides, why should the audience care to look at them?

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                                    @Viss Well i do a Audio only Podcast normaly but cons want slides so that became a running Gag

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                                    • ochmennopodcast@literatur.socialO ochmennopodcast@literatur.social

                                      @Viss Well i do a Audio only Podcast normaly but cons want slides so that became a running Gag

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                                      @Viss First it was the worst Powerpoint Default Design then the "Design ideas" now whatever Powerpoint builds in to Help to make slides "pritty". I always strive to have the ugliest slides of a con. That is for a Joke. But yeah in a Professional setting build your own slides. Always.

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        spicy opinion:

                                        one of the most disrspectful things you can do as a presenter, to your audience, is stand up in front of them and do a talk with a 100% ai generated slide deck.

                                        you couldnt even take the time to build your own deck out, and we're supposed to take you seriously? you didnt care enough to build your own deck, so why should the audience give a shit about it?

                                        its just a sociopathic/narcisistic play to get on stage and be in the spotlight for a moment. and its super obvious.

                                        boo.

                                        elettrona@poliversity.itE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @Viss @mastodonmigration Completely automated no. Not at all. But, well, it can give some help. I am a blind person, and find quite uncomfortable to speak using slides. Sometimes though, they're mandatory. And I haven't always sighted folks helping me organizing the graphics. We humans can't become biased worse than AI!
                                        But anyway, I think its duty is to be an aid, not a replacement for my own work. To have a good speech, you must provide users something making sense. And auto-generated descriptions don't help. In fact I use to have a basic structure generated by the bot, then I refine and adjust it. Even writing from scratch but keeping the bot's suggestion.
                                        Then I'll never use it for grammar corrections. I haven't made enough experiments in English, but (at least in Italian) it sometimes invents verbs! As an example "flatline", when a person's heart stops beating (medical drama context) it has invented "flatline" as an Italian verb. Without translating from English but using the Italian verbs conjugation.
                                        I love writing, I'm rigid in grammar rules when I can, not a nazi -at least not with humans- and imagine how I could react!

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