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Default tendency of tech cultures to try to explain everything instead of just being curious is going to kill me

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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

    @grimalkina Ages ago somebody pointed out to me that making up explanations for things is how tech nerds show off their plumage and strut around each other like peacocks. And I have to tell you, there have been days when knowing that when the "well actually it's because" starts you should be hearing "caw caw caw (waggle)" has improved my outlook immensely.

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    @mhoye @grimalkina oh I have just the picture for you! She's seen it all before...

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    • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

      @mhoye I like that reappraisal, really good defang

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      @grimalkina

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

        @grimalkina Ages ago somebody pointed out to me that making up explanations for things is how tech nerds show off their plumage and strut around each other like peacocks. And I have to tell you, there have been days when knowing that when the "well actually it's because" starts you should be hearing "caw caw caw (waggle)" has improved my outlook immensely.

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        @mhoye @grimalkina

        This seems oddly improved by the knowledge that, in Spanish, a peacock is a pavo real, a royal turkey.

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        • trishalynn@mastodon.sandwich.netT trishalynn@mastodon.sandwich.net

          @grimalkina They need a good Ted Lasso-ing.

          "Be curious, not 'splainy."

          Someone needs to put that on a cross-stitch sampler.

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          @trishalynn @grimalkina

          JHR: "That's just an assertion. We should build a rig and test it. Then we would know. And once we've done that, write it up so the next people make different mistakes.."

          Rest of people at meeting: (HM Bateman expressions)

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          • juliarez@chaos.socialJ juliarez@chaos.social

            @trishalynn @grimalkina

            JHR: "That's just an assertion. We should build a rig and test it. Then we would know. And once we've done that, write it up so the next people make different mistakes.."

            Rest of people at meeting: (HM Bateman expressions)

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            @trishalynn @grimalkina

            (I hated it. the whole thing was just toxic, but I could kind of see where it came from)

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            • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

              Default tendency of tech cultures to try to explain everything instead of just being curious is going to kill me

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              @grimalkina

              I do not get the point. Isn't being curious the drive of one who wants to know more about something?

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              • 77nn@goto.77nn.it7 77nn@goto.77nn.it

                @grimalkina

                I do not get the point. Isn't being curious the drive of one who wants to know more about something?

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                @77nn it's frustrating when the explanations are inaccurate (e.g., "this is explained already" while making a simplistic or inaccurate assumption about what the actual topic is)

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                • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                  @77nn it's frustrating when the explanations are inaccurate (e.g., "this is explained already" while making a simplistic or inaccurate assumption about what the actual topic is)

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                  @77nn I am pointing out a cognitive error

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                  • raganwald@social.bau-ha.usR raganwald@social.bau-ha.us

                    @grimalkina I'm curious about the correlation between sociopathy and incuriousness.

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                    @raganwald probably not quite sociopathy (although it might also produce this effect) I'd look at social dominance!

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                    • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

                      @grimalkina ok, I'm legit wondering now how we tech people developed this culture of "bullshit first, ask questions later".

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                      @dave

                      Not to answer your curiosity with explanation (LOLL!!) but probably many things, we could investigate:
                      - social dominance (like contest cultures)
                      - habits created by a lot of only having short-term opportunities to get a point across so many skills of infodumping? (e.g., explain a technical tradeoff, subvert a bad decision)
                      - calibration failures? like often being rewarded by rapid brute forcing solutions & overextending that

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                      • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                        Default tendency of tech cultures to try to explain everything instead of just being curious is going to kill me

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                        @grimalkina I would like to never have to use the phrase: "This is the least curious product team I've ever met" ever again.

                        You can't teach curiosity.

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