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  3. I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

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  • zwifi@framapiaf.orgZ zwifi@framapiaf.org

    @thisismissem congrats!

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    @Zwifi thanks, are you still involved in Solid things? I haven't really been keeping up since leaving Inrupt

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    • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

      I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

      This is why I stepped up to be an Invited Expert with the W3C FedID Working Group earlier in the year. The missing part at that time was "how do I fund this work?" so I'm super happy that Bluesky Social PBC really came through with a grant to fund this work.

      A really interesting thing that Bluesky Social PBC did here was they could have said "just make this work for AT Protocol" but instead they said "make this work for the entire decentralized web", and the contract explicitly states I should be working with the IndieAuth, Solid and other communities interested in federated and decentralized identity to make this happen.

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      @thisismissem bluesky like the centralised as hell nazi appoligist social network ? (only asking to be sure we talk about the same bluesky)

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      • lexinova@cyberplace.socialL lexinova@cyberplace.social

        @thisismissem bluesky like the centralised as hell nazi appoligist social network ? (only asking to be sure we talk about the same bluesky)

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        @lexinova so you'll be funding me for US$39,000 to do this work, since you don't approve of Bluesky Social PBC funding it for every decentralized web community, right?

        Or are you just responding to call names and be mad about something that eventually benefits you?

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        • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

          @lexinova so you'll be funding me for US$39,000 to do this work, since you don't approve of Bluesky Social PBC funding it for every decentralized web community, right?

          Or are you just responding to call names and be mad about something that eventually benefits you?

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          @thisismissem and another marchmellow that take anything as personal attack blocked like other

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          • origamiunicorn@mastodon.socialO origamiunicorn@mastodon.social

            @thisismissem Bluesky Social PBC? The same one with the crypto VC's? Who verified the official ICE account? The one with the transphobic CEO who openly mocks the users? Who will suspend you if you block their mod account? The same Bluesky Social PBC who's devs crashed out over LLM usage criticism?

            Yikes.

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            @origamiunicorn well she sure as hell wasn't getting the grant from any ActivityPub org.

            @thisismissem

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            • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

              @lexinova so you'll be funding me for US$39,000 to do this work, since you don't approve of Bluesky Social PBC funding it for every decentralized web community, right?

              Or are you just responding to call names and be mad about something that eventually benefits you?

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              @thisismissem @lexinova It is not this commenter's responsibility to ensure you act ethically.

              Right words. Right thoughts. Right deeds.

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              • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

                @origamiunicorn well she sure as hell wasn't getting the grant from any ActivityPub org.

                @thisismissem

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                @fromjason @origamiunicorn@mastodon.social I did actually look to see if there were any that could take on this sort of funding for standards work, and there wasn't.

                The fediverse is fundamentally cash poor, which is why I called that out in the article "Bluesky is perhaps on of the few organisations that could fund this work"

                I could've applied for NLNet grants, but I already had two grant applications with them open, and my last experience with them wasn't great:
                - September 2023 FIRES grant submitted
                - approx February 2024 heard it moved forwards
                - May 2024 grant concept approved
                - September 2024 grant signed
                - November 2024 first payment
                - June 2025 second payment
                - August 2025 third
                - December 2025 fourth & fifth

                Between those payments I had to look for freelance work to survive. That wouldn't work for something like this which needs sustained input continuously for a year.

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                • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                  I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

                  This is why I stepped up to be an Invited Expert with the W3C FedID Working Group earlier in the year. The missing part at that time was "how do I fund this work?" so I'm super happy that Bluesky Social PBC really came through with a grant to fund this work.

                  A really interesting thing that Bluesky Social PBC did here was they could have said "just make this work for AT Protocol" but instead they said "make this work for the entire decentralized web", and the contract explicitly states I should be working with the IndieAuth, Solid and other communities interested in federated and decentralized identity to make this happen.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Working to Decentralize FedCM - Decentralizing FedCM

                  Bluesky Social PBC have given a grant to Emelia Smith, an Invited Expert with the FedID Working Group, to work on FedCM with the goal of making FedCM really work for the decentralized web.

                  favicon

                  (decentralizing-fedcm.leaflet.pub)

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                  @thisismissem congrats!

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                  • fluffykontbiscuits@mastodon.socialF fluffykontbiscuits@mastodon.social

                    @origamiunicorn @thisismissem I was thinking the same

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                    @fluffykontbiscuits @origamiunicorn

                    Then you were both thinking incorrectly and you can kindly fuck off. Work on decentralization will both make this place stronger and will increase the chances that the atproto ecosystem meaningfully decentralizes to the point where the bad behavior of one participant doesn't define the whole network.

                    @thisismissem is doing valuable work and deserves to get paid for it.

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                    • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                      I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

                      This is why I stepped up to be an Invited Expert with the W3C FedID Working Group earlier in the year. The missing part at that time was "how do I fund this work?" so I'm super happy that Bluesky Social PBC really came through with a grant to fund this work.

                      A really interesting thing that Bluesky Social PBC did here was they could have said "just make this work for AT Protocol" but instead they said "make this work for the entire decentralized web", and the contract explicitly states I should be working with the IndieAuth, Solid and other communities interested in federated and decentralized identity to make this happen.

                      Link Preview Image
                      Working to Decentralize FedCM - Decentralizing FedCM

                      Bluesky Social PBC have given a grant to Emelia Smith, an Invited Expert with the FedID Working Group, to work on FedCM with the goal of making FedCM really work for the decentralized web.

                      favicon

                      (decentralizing-fedcm.leaflet.pub)

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                      @thisismissem

                      Congratulations!

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        @fluffykontbiscuits @origamiunicorn

                        Then you were both thinking incorrectly and you can kindly fuck off. Work on decentralization will both make this place stronger and will increase the chances that the atproto ecosystem meaningfully decentralizes to the point where the bad behavior of one participant doesn't define the whole network.

                        @thisismissem is doing valuable work and deserves to get paid for it.

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                        @ricci @origamiunicorn @thisismissem no need to be nasty. It's a civil discussion.

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                        • fluffykontbiscuits@mastodon.socialF fluffykontbiscuits@mastodon.social

                          @ricci @origamiunicorn @thisismissem no need to be nasty. It's a civil discussion.

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                          @fluffykontbiscuits fluffy, you and I engaged respectfully, but others in this thread did not. That's what I think @ricci is calling out, not calling you out necessarily.

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                          • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                            @Zwifi thanks, are you still involved in Solid things? I haven't really been keeping up since leaving Inrupt

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                            @thisismissem absolutely, still at inrupt, still on Solid, although I don't have as much free time as I'd like to dedicate to side-projects, but that will come back as the children are growing up ^^

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                            • zwifi@framapiaf.orgZ zwifi@framapiaf.org

                              @thisismissem absolutely, still at inrupt, still on Solid, although I don't have as much free time as I'd like to dedicate to side-projects, but that will come back as the children are growing up ^^

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                              @Zwifi @thisismissem Just a decade and a half or so to go 😛

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                              • zwifi@framapiaf.orgZ zwifi@framapiaf.org

                                @thisismissem absolutely, still at inrupt, still on Solid, although I don't have as much free time as I'd like to dedicate to side-projects, but that will come back as the children are growing up ^^

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                                @Zwifi oh! I thought Inrupt ditched solid? Maybe we should catch up?

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                                • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                                  I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

                                  This is why I stepped up to be an Invited Expert with the W3C FedID Working Group earlier in the year. The missing part at that time was "how do I fund this work?" so I'm super happy that Bluesky Social PBC really came through with a grant to fund this work.

                                  A really interesting thing that Bluesky Social PBC did here was they could have said "just make this work for AT Protocol" but instead they said "make this work for the entire decentralized web", and the contract explicitly states I should be working with the IndieAuth, Solid and other communities interested in federated and decentralized identity to make this happen.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Working to Decentralize FedCM - Decentralizing FedCM

                                  Bluesky Social PBC have given a grant to Emelia Smith, an Invited Expert with the FedID Working Group, to work on FedCM with the goal of making FedCM really work for the decentralized web.

                                  favicon

                                  (decentralizing-fedcm.leaflet.pub)

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                                  @thisismissem Congratulations! Good luck.

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                                  • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                                    I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

                                    This is why I stepped up to be an Invited Expert with the W3C FedID Working Group earlier in the year. The missing part at that time was "how do I fund this work?" so I'm super happy that Bluesky Social PBC really came through with a grant to fund this work.

                                    A really interesting thing that Bluesky Social PBC did here was they could have said "just make this work for AT Protocol" but instead they said "make this work for the entire decentralized web", and the contract explicitly states I should be working with the IndieAuth, Solid and other communities interested in federated and decentralized identity to make this happen.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Working to Decentralize FedCM - Decentralizing FedCM

                                    Bluesky Social PBC have given a grant to Emelia Smith, an Invited Expert with the FedID Working Group, to work on FedCM with the goal of making FedCM really work for the decentralized web.

                                    favicon

                                    (decentralizing-fedcm.leaflet.pub)

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                                    @thisismissem congrats!

                                    wasn't there Firefox Persona thingy ages ago where you were "signing with firefox"?

                                    I'm mildly annoyed that quite ofthen three is "sign in" displayed prominently and option to register with email burried somewhere below (not to mention it always defaults to 2-3 bigtech providers :/)

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                                    • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @thisismissem congrats!

                                      wasn't there Firefox Persona thingy ages ago where you were "signing with firefox"?

                                      I'm mildly annoyed that quite ofthen three is "sign in" displayed prominently and option to register with email burried somewhere below (not to mention it always defaults to 2-3 bigtech providers :/)

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                                      @wojtek yeah, there was, but in general, this is more a "UX guidance for website implementers" challenge. We still have many websites auto-prompting for like location services.

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                                      • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                                        I'm super hyped to announce that Bluesky Socal PBC has given me a grant to work on the Federated Credential Management (or FedCM) standards to make them really work for all decentralized web applications.

                                        This is why I stepped up to be an Invited Expert with the W3C FedID Working Group earlier in the year. The missing part at that time was "how do I fund this work?" so I'm super happy that Bluesky Social PBC really came through with a grant to fund this work.

                                        A really interesting thing that Bluesky Social PBC did here was they could have said "just make this work for AT Protocol" but instead they said "make this work for the entire decentralized web", and the contract explicitly states I should be working with the IndieAuth, Solid and other communities interested in federated and decentralized identity to make this happen.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Working to Decentralize FedCM - Decentralizing FedCM

                                        Bluesky Social PBC have given a grant to Emelia Smith, an Invited Expert with the FedID Working Group, to work on FedCM with the goal of making FedCM really work for the decentralized web.

                                        favicon

                                        (decentralizing-fedcm.leaflet.pub)

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                                        @thisismissem I'm super happy for you and for the Fediverse! You can be proud ! I'm sure you'll deliver a huge amount of work and a perfect credential management 🤩

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