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The Linux kernel version 7.0 has been released https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wj2WqpPBwpAXo8bj_Hx-NxKMRVTVMUaQis7+Vm6XLRZiw@mail.gmail.com/T/

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    The Linux kernel version 7.0 has been released https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wj2WqpPBwpAXo8bj_Hx-NxKMRVTVMUaQis7+Vm6XLRZiw@mail.gmail.com/T/

    bazkie@beige.partyB eli_b_rarian@tech.lgbtE manul70@mastodon.socialM pspssp@mastodon.socialP 4 Replies Last reply
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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      The Linux kernel version 7.0 has been released https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wj2WqpPBwpAXo8bj_Hx-NxKMRVTVMUaQis7+Vm6XLRZiw@mail.gmail.com/T/

      bazkie@beige.partyB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nixCraft the first kernel with AI slop 🤔 maybe I should freeze everything at <= 6

      if only security wasn't a thing. maybe it's time to ditch the internet

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      • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

        @nixCraft the first kernel with AI slop 🤔 maybe I should freeze everything at <= 6

        if only security wasn't a thing. maybe it's time to ditch the internet

        alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @bazkie

        AI slop in the Linux kernel!? 🤢🤮

        @nixCraft

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          The Linux kernel version 7.0 has been released https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wj2WqpPBwpAXo8bj_Hx-NxKMRVTVMUaQis7+Vm6XLRZiw@mail.gmail.com/T/

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          @nixCraft
          ...
          "I suspect it's a lot of AI tool use that will keep finding corner
          cases for us for a while, so this may be the "new normal" at least for
          a while. Only time will tell."
          ...
          "Input: add keycodes for contextual AI usages (HUTRR119)"
          ...

          fucking yikes.

          edit: added quotation marks to imply a quote

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            The Linux kernel version 7.0 has been released https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wj2WqpPBwpAXo8bj_Hx-NxKMRVTVMUaQis7+Vm6XLRZiw@mail.gmail.com/T/

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            @nixCraft AI slop and Rust.
            I'm on 5.15.0-25
            got installed: 5.15.0-25 and 6.8.0-87

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              The Linux kernel version 7.0 has been released https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wj2WqpPBwpAXo8bj_Hx-NxKMRVTVMUaQis7+Vm6XLRZiw@mail.gmail.com/T/

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              @nixCraft can this one make coffee?

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              • manul70@mastodon.socialM manul70@mastodon.social

                @nixCraft AI slop and Rust.
                I'm on 5.15.0-25
                got installed: 5.15.0-25 and 6.8.0-87

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                @manul70 @nixCraft Well, whilst AI is absolutely annoying. This sort of stance is going to have you stagnate everything in your environment. And if it has any online exposure, are you absolutely certain it's a good decision?

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                  @bazkie

                  AI slop in the Linux kernel!? 🤢🤮

                  @nixCraft

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                  @alexadeswift @nixCraft yep linus has allowed AI usage for coding on the kernel

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                  • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

                    @nixCraft the first kernel with AI slop 🤔 maybe I should freeze everything at <= 6

                    if only security wasn't a thing. maybe it's time to ditch the internet

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                    @bazkie @nixCraft using AI and making AI slop are two different things. As Linus said, the cat is out of the bag. The decision to allow it being used as a tool while making a person responsible for it is probably the best compromise we can get. Its either that, or people will use it without disclosing it.

                    Disclaimer: I hate AI as much as the next person, I have never used AI and dont plan to.

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                    • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

                      @alexadeswift @nixCraft yep linus has allowed AI usage for coding on the kernel

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                      @bazkie @alexadeswift @nixCraft thats not AI slop tbf

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                      • itseperkele@expressional.socialI itseperkele@expressional.social

                        @bazkie @nixCraft using AI and making AI slop are two different things. As Linus said, the cat is out of the bag. The decision to allow it being used as a tool while making a person responsible for it is probably the best compromise we can get. Its either that, or people will use it without disclosing it.

                        Disclaimer: I hate AI as much as the next person, I have never used AI and dont plan to.

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                        @ItsePerkele @nixCraft "Its either that, or people will use it without disclosing it." I would prefer that latter option; maybe things can still be detected and the people banned, and maybe we can shame people into not using it.

                        just my opinion

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                        • clot27@mastodon.socialC clot27@mastodon.social

                          @bazkie @alexadeswift @nixCraft thats not AI slop tbf

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                          @clot27 @alexadeswift @nixCraft that is 100% AI slop. AI pooped out code is more buggy, has no idea about the wider systemic context it exists in, and is stolen from humans without consent.

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                          • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

                            @clot27 @alexadeswift @nixCraft that is 100% AI slop. AI pooped out code is more buggy, has no idea about the wider systemic context it exists in, and is stolen from humans without consent.

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                            @bazkie

                            Human beings are notorious for creating error filled code, and AI is worse. We should not be using AI to create code from whole cloth.

                            @clot27 @nixCraft

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                              @ItsePerkele @nixCraft "Its either that, or people will use it without disclosing it." I would prefer that latter option; maybe things can still be detected and the people banned, and maybe we can shame people into not using it.

                              just my opinion

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                              @bazkie @nixCraft so in other words you'd rather not know that you are using AI made code, instead of knowing that something does use AI made code and that a person has looked it over, made sure its not slop and vouches for it to work properly?

                              I'd rather know and have the option to not use it, than use it unknowingly.

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                              • itseperkele@expressional.socialI itseperkele@expressional.social

                                @bazkie @nixCraft so in other words you'd rather not know that you are using AI made code, instead of knowing that something does use AI made code and that a person has looked it over, made sure its not slop and vouches for it to work properly?

                                I'd rather know and have the option to not use it, than use it unknowingly.

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                                @ItsePerkele @nixCraft how could you tell the difference between someone using AI and not telling, or someone admitting they used AI while claiming that they gave it a good human look afterwards? (which you can be sure they didn't, because if you know how to code, why would you use AI in the first place)

                                also how can you choose to not use something that will be included in the kernel?

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                                • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

                                  @ItsePerkele @nixCraft how could you tell the difference between someone using AI and not telling, or someone admitting they used AI while claiming that they gave it a good human look afterwards? (which you can be sure they didn't, because if you know how to code, why would you use AI in the first place)

                                  also how can you choose to not use something that will be included in the kernel?

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                                  @bazkie @nixCraft by changing to BSD

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