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  • vor@lgbtqia.spaceV vor@lgbtqia.space

    @lisamelton @ivory

    This is what I see on my iPhone.

    If you are here to say she's doing it wrong, leave now.

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    #33

    @vor Yes, that's because Ivory is not the Web software. As I mentioned in my post.

    @ivory

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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      You all know I'm trans. So, I care a LOT about presentation, about how I look and how I'm perceived.

      In a medium that is primarily text-based, I would think it's important to preserve the manner in which the author's text is formatted. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT AUTHOR IS DESCRIBING THEMSELVES!

      Look, I might as well just change the BIO text field to:

      "See https://lisamelton.net/about/ because Mastodon constrains self expression"

      Am I upset about this issue? Yes! Aren't you?

      2/3

      moss@kind.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @lisamelton Accessibility hell to boot!! I hope they fix it asap, it seems such a silly choice

      ⁃ Person whose bio is bullet points

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        If you don't see this behavior in your Mastodon profile, it's probably because you're running an older version of the Web software.

        I'm on mastodon.social and it's currently running version v4.6.0-alpha.7+pr-38939-5f3002f.

        Again, because I don't normally look at my own profile, I have no idea when this heinous formatting began in the development process.

        Because my version is an alpha, I hope that means there's plenty of time for Mastodon to fix this self-inflicted mistake.

        3/3

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        @lisamelton Must be a very recent change, because the profile looks fine on infosec.exchange, which is running v4.6.0-alpha.7+glitch.

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        • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ jernej__s@infosec.exchange

          @lisamelton Must be a very recent change, because the profile looks fine on infosec.exchange, which is running v4.6.0-alpha.7+glitch.

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          @jernej__s Interesting! I first noticed it yesterday so, yeah, it's gotta be recent.

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          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

            Long rant incoming...

            I hadn't looked at the BIO text field of my own Mastodon profile on the Web in quite awhile. Long ago I formatted it with one extra carriage return between each paragraph to increase legibility.

            But now it's rendered as a compressed, hard to read single blob with no vertical spaces. WTF?!?

            Why is Mastodon taking away my agency and butchering my typography? Is this going to happen to our posts next?

            This insulting and unnecessary change needs to be backed out!

            1/3

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            @lisamelton@mastodon.social
            fwiw it still looks correct in misskey. oh and also the renote button doesnt require you to unrenote first.
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            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

              @soundclamp Thanks. Read the third part of my message.

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              the_drifter@mastodon.social
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              @lisamelton @soundclamp i adore your patience ^^ (just read the whole thread at once 😉

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              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                If you don't see this behavior in your Mastodon profile, it's probably because you're running an older version of the Web software.

                I'm on mastodon.social and it's currently running version v4.6.0-alpha.7+pr-38939-5f3002f.

                Again, because I don't normally look at my own profile, I have no idea when this heinous formatting began in the development process.

                Because my version is an alpha, I hope that means there's plenty of time for Mastodon to fix this self-inflicted mistake.

                3/3

                siwek@social.tooinconsistent.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #39

                @lisamelton it seems to be caused by https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/38920/changes#diff-edd345ee45838ecdc48d8b64ba5f0d4475300e2cc36e696a937fe012a6e025caL8332 and from the context of the PR it seems that hopefully it is not intentional.

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                • siwek@social.tooinconsistent.comS siwek@social.tooinconsistent.com

                  @lisamelton it seems to be caused by https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/38920/changes#diff-edd345ee45838ecdc48d8b64ba5f0d4475300e2cc36e696a937fe012a6e025caL8332 and from the context of the PR it seems that hopefully it is not intentional.

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                  @siwek Ah. So this is CSS horkage. Great.

                  Well, the good news is that it's easily fixed.

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                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                    If you don't see this behavior in your Mastodon profile, it's probably because you're running an older version of the Web software.

                    I'm on mastodon.social and it's currently running version v4.6.0-alpha.7+pr-38939-5f3002f.

                    Again, because I don't normally look at my own profile, I have no idea when this heinous formatting began in the development process.

                    Because my version is an alpha, I hope that means there's plenty of time for Mastodon to fix this self-inflicted mistake.

                    3/3

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                    #41

                    @lisamelton looks like it’s a display error, not changing the underlying data that gets displayed. Looks consistent with the way browsers collapse whitespace if the raw text is embedded in HTML without adding the corresponding tags and/or entities. I’ve lost track, are there Mastodon devs we could tag to bring this to their attention? Would you want them tagged in this thread?

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      @CStamp Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it's intentional foolishness.

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                      #42

                      @lisamelton @CStamp but why..?

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                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                        Long rant incoming...

                        I hadn't looked at the BIO text field of my own Mastodon profile on the Web in quite awhile. Long ago I formatted it with one extra carriage return between each paragraph to increase legibility.

                        But now it's rendered as a compressed, hard to read single blob with no vertical spaces. WTF?!?

                        Why is Mastodon taking away my agency and butchering my typography? Is this going to happen to our posts next?

                        This insulting and unnecessary change needs to be backed out!

                        1/3

                        iloo@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #43

                        @lisamelton From my experience as a developer I wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that it's a deliberate action aimed at limiting your expresion (especially if it renders correctly in the edit) it might be that some function that is supposed to 'clean' potentially problematic characters/code/etc is a bit overzealous in deleting white spaces 😉 If it's deliberet then I agree it sucks and can be frustrating if you spent time and energy to make it look nice just for it to be ignored 😞

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                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                          @siwek Ah. So this is CSS horkage. Great.

                          Well, the good news is that it's easily fixed.

                          siwek@social.tooinconsistent.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #44

                          @lisamelton I do hope so!

                          Hard to say without knowing what's exactly in the designs, but it does look accidental.

                          And all the paragraphs are still there, so it is indeed just css change.

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                          • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                            @lisamelton looks like it’s a display error, not changing the underlying data that gets displayed. Looks consistent with the way browsers collapse whitespace if the raw text is embedded in HTML without adding the corresponding tags and/or entities. I’ve lost track, are there Mastodon devs we could tag to bring this to their attention? Would you want them tagged in this thread?

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                            @ShadSterling It appears to be a glitch introduced by a change to the CSS. Unclear whether it was intentional.

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                            • iloo@mastodon.socialI iloo@mastodon.social

                              @lisamelton From my experience as a developer I wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that it's a deliberate action aimed at limiting your expresion (especially if it renders correctly in the edit) it might be that some function that is supposed to 'clean' potentially problematic characters/code/etc is a bit overzealous in deleting white spaces 😉 If it's deliberet then I agree it sucks and can be frustrating if you spent time and energy to make it look nice just for it to be ignored 😞

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #46

                              @Iloo It may not be deliberate to limit my expression. No idea.

                              But pitching a bitch because it seems like that is a good way to get an expeditious fix.

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                              • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

                                @lisamelton @CStamp but why..?

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                                @noodlemaz @CStamp I take that back. It appears that i might be an error in the CSS from a cleanup pass through the stylesheet.

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                                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                  @ShadSterling It appears to be a glitch introduced by a change to the CSS. Unclear whether it was intentional.

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                                  @lisamelton strikes me as related to the problem that no formatting is defined for either bios or posts, so each UI makes up its own rules, and each will misrender some posts/bios because they do conflicting things. It’s baffling that the spec doesn’t apply MIME types, especially with all the early comparisons to email. At least in this case there’s a clear fix, to restore the previous behavior

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