Yesterday i had to do something really fucking stupid
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Yesterday i had to do something really fucking stupid.
I wanted to try out a new desktop fedi client, but the windows version is only released in the microsoft store. so i go to download it from the MS Store only for it and all the other store exclusive apps i use. to fail to download/update. it kept giving an error, so i google that error and all the results for it are related to the windows firewall not working.
So i check the windows firewall and its related services and theyre all working fine. my next guess its probably something fucky with the microsoft store. so i clear out the cache and it doesnt fix it. i check the microsoft store services and theyre still working, restarting them doesnt help. so i think maybe the store itself is broken so i open power shell and uninstall it. as im going to reinstall the microsoft store it keeps failing saying it cannot find the files, even as i explicitly point to them or try to redownload from microsofts servers. i cant even re-download it from winget because it uses the store as a repo for that. oh and microsoft removed the MSI installer to manualy install the store, you can only get it from the store or windows update. AND WINDOWS UPDATE IS NOW BROKEN TOO!!!
So at this point im thinking i need to do the usual SFC/DISM fixes in powershell, except when it goes to repair things it still cannot find the repositorys. maybe i can try the offline fix method? so i download a W11 25H2 iso, mount it, point DISM to it, and it STILL cannot find it.
Now at this point im kinda livid. this windows 11 install has survived 6 years of updates, across 3 different machines, and even the jump up from windows 10. I have kept this frankenwindows install running for so long i get a sick perverse pleasure from keeping it alive. I really do not want to have to nuke this drive. so i go for broke and do an in-place reset of 25H2. AND IT STILL DIDNT FIX IT.
But the in place reset did do something! after that i was able to use powershell to reinstall and reset the store. and when i finally open the store im greeted with "WinAppRuntime.Main.1.8 Updated Today"
So you're telling me that the runtime environment necessary for the microsoft store and related apps to update and function, updates through the store? and if it breaks it cant update itself to unbreak? is there not a way to manually install this? well apparently not that i can fucking find. you need to do an inplace windows reset because apparently nothing short of that will fix how badly it fubars the repositorys and app database.
This is why nobody fucking loves you Microslop. -
Yesterday i had to do something really fucking stupid.
I wanted to try out a new desktop fedi client, but the windows version is only released in the microsoft store. so i go to download it from the MS Store only for it and all the other store exclusive apps i use. to fail to download/update. it kept giving an error, so i google that error and all the results for it are related to the windows firewall not working.
So i check the windows firewall and its related services and theyre all working fine. my next guess its probably something fucky with the microsoft store. so i clear out the cache and it doesnt fix it. i check the microsoft store services and theyre still working, restarting them doesnt help. so i think maybe the store itself is broken so i open power shell and uninstall it. as im going to reinstall the microsoft store it keeps failing saying it cannot find the files, even as i explicitly point to them or try to redownload from microsofts servers. i cant even re-download it from winget because it uses the store as a repo for that. oh and microsoft removed the MSI installer to manualy install the store, you can only get it from the store or windows update. AND WINDOWS UPDATE IS NOW BROKEN TOO!!!
So at this point im thinking i need to do the usual SFC/DISM fixes in powershell, except when it goes to repair things it still cannot find the repositorys. maybe i can try the offline fix method? so i download a W11 25H2 iso, mount it, point DISM to it, and it STILL cannot find it.
Now at this point im kinda livid. this windows 11 install has survived 6 years of updates, across 3 different machines, and even the jump up from windows 10. I have kept this frankenwindows install running for so long i get a sick perverse pleasure from keeping it alive. I really do not want to have to nuke this drive. so i go for broke and do an in-place reset of 25H2. AND IT STILL DIDNT FIX IT.
But the in place reset did do something! after that i was able to use powershell to reinstall and reset the store. and when i finally open the store im greeted with "WinAppRuntime.Main.1.8 Updated Today"
So you're telling me that the runtime environment necessary for the microsoft store and related apps to update and function, updates through the store? and if it breaks it cant update itself to unbreak? is there not a way to manually install this? well apparently not that i can fucking find. you need to do an inplace windows reset because apparently nothing short of that will fix how badly it fubars the repositorys and app database.
This is why nobody fucking loves you Microslop.PS: if you tell me to use linux instead of windows for this machine, which for various reasons i wont get into i cannot do, they will never find your body. -
PS: if you tell me to use linux instead of windows for this machine, which for various reasons i wont get into i cannot do, they will never find your body.
@Jenetrix ReactOS
*Runs away*
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@Jenetrix ReactOS
*Runs away*
@reb i will bite you -
Yesterday i had to do something really fucking stupid.
I wanted to try out a new desktop fedi client, but the windows version is only released in the microsoft store. so i go to download it from the MS Store only for it and all the other store exclusive apps i use. to fail to download/update. it kept giving an error, so i google that error and all the results for it are related to the windows firewall not working.
So i check the windows firewall and its related services and theyre all working fine. my next guess its probably something fucky with the microsoft store. so i clear out the cache and it doesnt fix it. i check the microsoft store services and theyre still working, restarting them doesnt help. so i think maybe the store itself is broken so i open power shell and uninstall it. as im going to reinstall the microsoft store it keeps failing saying it cannot find the files, even as i explicitly point to them or try to redownload from microsofts servers. i cant even re-download it from winget because it uses the store as a repo for that. oh and microsoft removed the MSI installer to manualy install the store, you can only get it from the store or windows update. AND WINDOWS UPDATE IS NOW BROKEN TOO!!!
So at this point im thinking i need to do the usual SFC/DISM fixes in powershell, except when it goes to repair things it still cannot find the repositorys. maybe i can try the offline fix method? so i download a W11 25H2 iso, mount it, point DISM to it, and it STILL cannot find it.
Now at this point im kinda livid. this windows 11 install has survived 6 years of updates, across 3 different machines, and even the jump up from windows 10. I have kept this frankenwindows install running for so long i get a sick perverse pleasure from keeping it alive. I really do not want to have to nuke this drive. so i go for broke and do an in-place reset of 25H2. AND IT STILL DIDNT FIX IT.
But the in place reset did do something! after that i was able to use powershell to reinstall and reset the store. and when i finally open the store im greeted with "WinAppRuntime.Main.1.8 Updated Today"
So you're telling me that the runtime environment necessary for the microsoft store and related apps to update and function, updates through the store? and if it breaks it cant update itself to unbreak? is there not a way to manually install this? well apparently not that i can fucking find. you need to do an inplace windows reset because apparently nothing short of that will fix how badly it fubars the repositorys and app database.
This is why nobody fucking loves you Microslop.doing linux levels of repair effort to windows isnt my favorite passtime because of how annoying it is, but it is entertaining to see what breaks and why. -
doing linux levels of repair effort to windows isnt my favorite passtime because of how annoying it is, but it is entertaining to see what breaks and why.my linux laptops never give me this level of grief fr
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doing linux levels of repair effort to windows isnt my favorite passtime because of how annoying it is, but it is entertaining to see what breaks and why.
@Jenetrix I am not suggesting Linux
But I do suggest a Linux-like way to get the original task done.Is the client open source? You can probably build it for Windows yourself and forget about the store
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doing linux levels of repair effort to windows isnt my favorite passtime because of how annoying it is, but it is entertaining to see what breaks and why.
@Jenetrix this has made me nostalgic for the XP to 7 era, back when you could do surgery on windows without it freaking out
XP in particular feels... I don't know how to describe it. I guess it's just primitive? Like an old car.
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@Jenetrix I am not suggesting Linux
But I do suggest a Linux-like way to get the original task done.Is the client open source? You can probably build it for Windows yourself and forget about the store
@DjBRINE1 it is, but spending time building windows applications is not something i really enjoy doing. at least the linux version is released in a sane way. -
@DjBRINE1 it is, but spending time building windows applications is not something i really enjoy doing. at least the linux version is released in a sane way.
@Jenetrix Fair, but you probably will have to evaluate do you hate building or troubleshooting more
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Yesterday i had to do something really fucking stupid.
I wanted to try out a new desktop fedi client, but the windows version is only released in the microsoft store. so i go to download it from the MS Store only for it and all the other store exclusive apps i use. to fail to download/update. it kept giving an error, so i google that error and all the results for it are related to the windows firewall not working.
So i check the windows firewall and its related services and theyre all working fine. my next guess its probably something fucky with the microsoft store. so i clear out the cache and it doesnt fix it. i check the microsoft store services and theyre still working, restarting them doesnt help. so i think maybe the store itself is broken so i open power shell and uninstall it. as im going to reinstall the microsoft store it keeps failing saying it cannot find the files, even as i explicitly point to them or try to redownload from microsofts servers. i cant even re-download it from winget because it uses the store as a repo for that. oh and microsoft removed the MSI installer to manualy install the store, you can only get it from the store or windows update. AND WINDOWS UPDATE IS NOW BROKEN TOO!!!
So at this point im thinking i need to do the usual SFC/DISM fixes in powershell, except when it goes to repair things it still cannot find the repositorys. maybe i can try the offline fix method? so i download a W11 25H2 iso, mount it, point DISM to it, and it STILL cannot find it.
Now at this point im kinda livid. this windows 11 install has survived 6 years of updates, across 3 different machines, and even the jump up from windows 10. I have kept this frankenwindows install running for so long i get a sick perverse pleasure from keeping it alive. I really do not want to have to nuke this drive. so i go for broke and do an in-place reset of 25H2. AND IT STILL DIDNT FIX IT.
But the in place reset did do something! after that i was able to use powershell to reinstall and reset the store. and when i finally open the store im greeted with "WinAppRuntime.Main.1.8 Updated Today"
So you're telling me that the runtime environment necessary for the microsoft store and related apps to update and function, updates through the store? and if it breaks it cant update itself to unbreak? is there not a way to manually install this? well apparently not that i can fucking find. you need to do an inplace windows reset because apparently nothing short of that will fix how badly it fubars the repositorys and app database.
This is why nobody fucking loves you Microslop.@Jenetrix Tons of people inside microsoft had been complaining how bad windows update was for years when I started working there... 10 years ago. The team I was on actually broke windows update over the weekend once because we pushed too many internal OS images into their pipeline, after they explicitly told us we could do that without causing a problem, which also took out the entire windows store, which included all of xbox!
When I went back 5 years ago they had to patch the Windows Store just to support Halo Infinite having two possible executables, and there was also a bug where every time you installed the game the icon would get 1 pixel smaller. We had multiple issues with the Halo Infinite install on the windows store. Everyone hated it (and we didn't have any issues with Steam). The entire windows ecosystem is a catastrophe, microsoft employees don't even like it, and eventually the inertia the company thinks it can ride on forever will run out, very abruptly.
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@Jenetrix Tons of people inside microsoft had been complaining how bad windows update was for years when I started working there... 10 years ago. The team I was on actually broke windows update over the weekend once because we pushed too many internal OS images into their pipeline, after they explicitly told us we could do that without causing a problem, which also took out the entire windows store, which included all of xbox!
When I went back 5 years ago they had to patch the Windows Store just to support Halo Infinite having two possible executables, and there was also a bug where every time you installed the game the icon would get 1 pixel smaller. We had multiple issues with the Halo Infinite install on the windows store. Everyone hated it (and we didn't have any issues with Steam). The entire windows ecosystem is a catastrophe, microsoft employees don't even like it, and eventually the inertia the company thinks it can ride on forever will run out, very abruptly.
@cloudhop my uncle worked on drivers at ms during the win7 era and he fucking hated it back then too. ive never heard good things from ex ms employees about the state of windows. -
@cloudhop my uncle worked on drivers at ms during the win7 era and he fucking hated it back then too. ive never heard good things from ex ms employees about the state of windows.
@Jenetrix i just want to get paid to do good engineering instead of slaving over a castle of toothpicks and chewing gum
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