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  • deborahh@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #39

    @PhilWill @ratsnakegames @lokeloski

    ah, I see it now: *this* is at the root of why mandated AI use is so corrosive. Someone up the heirarchy, not understanding the complexity of the work of their subordinates, declares they are replaceable by the machine.

    Hmm. I need to think on this.

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    • mynameistillian@plush.cityM mynameistillian@plush.city

      @lokeloski the lack of artist solidarity stings here...those people think everyone else but them can be replaced by an LLM...foolish creatures

      deborahh@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #40

      @mynameistillian @lokeloski ah, I see it now: *this* is at the root of why mandated AI use is so corrosive. Someone up the heirarchy, not understanding the complexity of the work of their subordinates, thinks they are replaceable by the machine. Hmm. I need to think on this.

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      • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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        #41

        @lokeloski In both cases it sounds like the advice is that you can't use it for things that you are going to be marked on - the justification given is of course, wrong.

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        • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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          juni@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #42

          @lokeloski "It's only ever the jobs we're unfamiliar with that we assume can be replaced with automation."

          Yup. And I only ever hear *bosses* say that *everybody* can be replaced by automation.

          You may now draw your own conclusions.

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          • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

            @lokeloski the subtext here is also that at least some artists do not consider other artistic fields "real" art

            tattie@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #43

            @ratsnakegames this right here ☝️
            @lokeloski

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @geeeero @lokeloski important to note the Gell-Mann effect is made up trash. It's literally something Crichton said once. So imagine how cognitive psychologists feel about it.

              tattie@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #44

              @davidgerard ironically I really thought Crichton was smart until he wrote a book around my own field of expertise.
              @geeeero @lokeloski

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              • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                steveclough@metalhead.clubS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #45

                @lokeloski There is a sense where, in an academic environment, using AI for those parts that are not central to ones study might be justified.

                So, if you are doing comics, learning how to draw stories, maybe using something else for the storywriting is viable.

                Obviously, not in the real world. In the real world, generative AI is of no use whatsoever.

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                • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                  mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #46

                  @lokeloski People perennially underestimate the difficulty of any type of work other than the type they do themselves.

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                  • mathieugenois@fediscience.orgM mathieugenois@fediscience.org

                    @gkrnours
                    Some mathematicians are also on this "let's automatize our own job" path…
                    @lokeloski

                    craigduncan@mastodon.auC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #47

                    @mathieugenois

                    Terry Tao?

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      @geeeero @lokeloski important to note the Gell-Mann effect is made up trash. It's literally something Crichton said once. So imagine how cognitive psychologists feel about it.

                      hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #48

                      @davidgerard @geeeero @lokeloski could you elaborate on it, or provide some sources? Cause at first glance it honestly feels pretty accurate? Like I've even felt myself slip into this, and I only learned there's a name for it just now 😅

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                      • hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH hazelnot@sunbeam.city

                        @davidgerard @geeeero @lokeloski could you elaborate on it, or provide some sources? Cause at first glance it honestly feels pretty accurate? Like I've even felt myself slip into this, and I only learned there's a name for it just now 😅

                        davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #49

                        @hazelnot @geeeero @lokeloski well, the linked Wikipedia article for one. If you're demanding I go prove a negative for you, i mean, you could go look yourself.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          @hazelnot @geeeero @lokeloski well, the linked Wikipedia article for one. If you're demanding I go prove a negative for you, i mean, you could go look yourself.

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                          #50

                          @davidgerard @geeeero @lokeloski I'm not *demanding* anything, I was just asking 💀

                          I read the Wikipedia article and it didn't seem like trash to me, it says it hasn't been formally recognised but that it's "gained traction in critical thinking and media literacy discussions"

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                          • deborahh@cosocial.caD deborahh@cosocial.ca

                            @mynameistillian @lokeloski ah, I see it now: *this* is at the root of why mandated AI use is so corrosive. Someone up the heirarchy, not understanding the complexity of the work of their subordinates, thinks they are replaceable by the machine. Hmm. I need to think on this.

                            wifwolf@packmates.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @deborahh @mynameistillian @lokeloski

                            The machine can not replace the human.
                            The machine will be used to replace the human.

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                            • hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH hazelnot@sunbeam.city

                              @davidgerard @geeeero @lokeloski I'm not *demanding* anything, I was just asking 💀

                              I read the Wikipedia article and it didn't seem like trash to me, it says it hasn't been formally recognised but that it's "gained traction in critical thinking and media literacy discussions"

                              davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #52

                              @hazelnot @geeeero @lokeloski and it cites a total of one thing

                              hence the notability tag

                              i put a note on the talk page that this is based on almost nothing except a vastly overlength quote and the few sentences in the crichton article do exactly the same job

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                              • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

                                FOUND IT

                                taupan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #53

                                @lokeloski Found the link https://catmask.tumblr.com/post/805377916247621632

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                                • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                                  #54
                                  @lokeloski because "Gen" really means not only "generative", but also "generic". So, it can only truly replace generalists, but not specialists.
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                                  • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                                    #55

                                    @lokeloski Clearly, the only thing AI can actually replace is…. Engineers doing AI work.

                                    Once no humans are working on AI any more, nobody will care what it does.

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                                    • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                                      #56

                                      Ok, this has been making the rounds around here, so I'm muting it now because it keeps blowing my notifications up.

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                                      • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                                        #57

                                        @lokeloski
                                        @catrinity

                                        related

                                        https://social.vivaldi.net/@bloggityblog/115892874495961546

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                                        • wifwolf@packmates.orgW wifwolf@packmates.org

                                          @deborahh @mynameistillian @lokeloski

                                          The machine can not replace the human.
                                          The machine will be used to replace the human.

                                          deborahh@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @wifwolf @mynameistillian @lokeloski inadequately 😭

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