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  3. I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

    Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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    @xgranade youth liberation now

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    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

      I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

      Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

      black_flag@beige.partyB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @xgranade For a philosophy of control, however, they are the perfect targets. And they can't speak for themselves cos no one ever allows them to. But if they treat their own kids like this no wonder the foreign kids are made to dig things out of the ground with their bare hands to service the West.

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      • black_flag@beige.partyB black_flag@beige.party

        @xgranade For a philosophy of control, however, they are the perfect targets. And they can't speak for themselves cos no one ever allows them to. But if they treat their own kids like this no wonder the foreign kids are made to dig things out of the ground with their bare hands to service the West.

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        @Black_Flag Yep. There's also things like that kids haven't finished developing, almost by definition, and do some absolutely terribly ill-advised shit as a result. Making some choices on behalf of kids is part of respecting them and keeping them safe, so it's easy for authoritarians to slip truly heinous shit into that cultural space without setting off alarm bells.

        Being critical and approaching things in terms of how to respect kids' rights first and foremost is the key, I think.

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        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

          @Black_Flag Yep. There's also things like that kids haven't finished developing, almost by definition, and do some absolutely terribly ill-advised shit as a result. Making some choices on behalf of kids is part of respecting them and keeping them safe, so it's easy for authoritarians to slip truly heinous shit into that cultural space without setting off alarm bells.

          Being critical and approaching things in terms of how to respect kids' rights first and foremost is the key, I think.

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          @Black_Flag Like, if you approach issues in terms of that kids are independent people with independent rights whom parents and the rest of society have a responsibility to, then it's much easier to navigate things without authoritarianism.

          But too many parents *want* to be authoritarian, and as you point out, there's very little room for kids to fight back as compared with other marginalized groups.

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          • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

            @Black_Flag Like, if you approach issues in terms of that kids are independent people with independent rights whom parents and the rest of society have a responsibility to, then it's much easier to navigate things without authoritarianism.

            But too many parents *want* to be authoritarian, and as you point out, there's very little room for kids to fight back as compared with other marginalized groups.

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            @xgranade Kids are in these times literally people who have no rights... even whilst it is claimed they do have them. But if you can't fight for a right yourself, in your own way and according to your own desire but must have someone do it for you then that is just empty words. The truth is kids are examples of what the authoritarians would prefer us all to be: powerless and obedient or else.

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            • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

              I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

              Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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              @xgranade absofuckinglutely. It's been disappointing on so many levels.

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              • aiefel@mastodon.socialA aiefel@mastodon.social

                @xgranade so glad my teen turned 18 last month before this kind of stuff really landed, but it's awful for parents and kids and everyone else.

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                @aiefel @xgranade Still both yours and your kid's data is going to be sold, misused, and probably leaked.

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                • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

                  @aiefel @xgranade Still both yours and your kid's data is going to be sold, misused, and probably leaked.

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                  @rhelune @xgranade true. We're still opting out. But it's different than having to manage a minor's privacy against the government. The VPNs aren't going away.

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                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                    I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                    Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                    @xgranade

                    exactly

                    children are NOT PROPERTY

                    ugh

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                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                      I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                      Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                      @xgranade the only "parents' rights" I support are the rights to raise their kids and meet those kids' needs, like healthcare for example. But no no, not *those* rights, they just mean the "right" to abuse children

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                      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                        I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                        Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                        @xgranade Back then teens will throw parties they use to have teen raves though they get caught

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