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  • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

    I get to speak to a masters in cyber security class at a major university on Monday. They are learning about interacting with senior leadership/BoD on topics of cyber risk. I have many stories to share with them, but curious if y’all have any ideas on what you thank that group should know

    sensorlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jerry This is broader than just risk, but my advice on talking to top leadership is to pay very close attention to the questions they ask. They are trying to make decisions about what the company should do, and if you are talking to them, it's likely because someone thinks you have information that could help them make that decision.

    Have understandable answers and plan for the follow-up questions. Identify the key points you think the leaders need to know but may not know to ask.

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    • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

      I get to speak to a masters in cyber security class at a major university on Monday. They are learning about interacting with senior leadership/BoD on topics of cyber risk. I have many stories to share with them, but curious if y’all have any ideas on what you thank that group should know

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      @jerry Also, it absolutely has to be established that Infosec runs the investigation, and can be allowed to turn things off. I once ran an incident communications workshop where the PR dept. said flatly: we will be running the investigation, as if they knew anything about systems. They wanted to govern the story completely.

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      • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

        @da_667 @Viss @DamonHD @jerry I have 7/8 of a music degree.

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        @Sempf @da_667 @DamonHD @jerry sure, its totally possible for people to be nerds and that not match their major. ive just encountered so many people with a 'masters in cybercyber' that dont have even basic experience, like installing an os or configuring a linksys its tainted the whole degree for me

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        • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

          @da_667 @Viss @DamonHD @jerry I have 7/8 of a music degree.

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          @Sempf @da_667 @Viss @jerry An education and a time signature! B^>

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          • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

            I should probably figure out what cyber security means before I go speak to a masters class about cyber security.

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            @jerry It’s when you “cyber” securely, e.g. door closed, lights off, all alone.

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            • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

              I get to speak to a masters in cyber security class at a major university on Monday. They are learning about interacting with senior leadership/BoD on topics of cyber risk. I have many stories to share with them, but curious if y’all have any ideas on what you thank that group should know

              kevinflynn@c.imK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jerry
              Risk, as a cost

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              • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                @jerry relating any recommendations to financial impact is all they care about. How much it will cost to implement, vs. how much it'll cost if we don't implement it.

                jan@social.eden.oneJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @da_667 @jerry Walk the fine line between fearmongering and allowing the BoD to snooze.

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                • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                  I should probably figure out what cyber security means before I go speak to a masters class about cyber security.

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                  @jerry I put on my robe and wizard hat… securely

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                  • hotsoup@infosec.exchangeH hotsoup@infosec.exchange

                    @jerry I put on my robe and wizard hat… securely

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                    #33

                    @hotsoup I doubt anyone there will be old enough to understand that reference

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                    • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                      I get to speak to a masters in cyber security class at a major university on Monday. They are learning about interacting with senior leadership/BoD on topics of cyber risk. I have many stories to share with them, but curious if y’all have any ideas on what you thank that group should know

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                      @jerry Also generally, security risk frameworks don't align with financial risks. To quote Jacquith, how do controls relate to business value? This is the problem they're going to have to solve.

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                      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                        I get to speak to a masters in cyber security class at a major university on Monday. They are learning about interacting with senior leadership/BoD on topics of cyber risk. I have many stories to share with them, but curious if y’all have any ideas on what you thank that group should know

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                        @jerry have you read the CISO Report?

                        https://www.garymcgraw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CISO-2017.pdf

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                        • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                          @hotsoup I doubt anyone there will be old enough to understand that reference

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                          @jerry @hotsoup Damn it, that means I'm the same age as old people.

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                          • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                            I should probably figure out what cyber security means before I go speak to a masters class about cyber security.

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                            @jerry going all philosophical

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                            • hotsoup@infosec.exchangeH hotsoup@infosec.exchange

                              @jerry I put on my robe and wizard hat… securely

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                              @hotsoup @jerry “I cast lvl 3 eroticism..”

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                              • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                I should probably figure out what cyber security means before I go speak to a masters class about cyber security.

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                                @jerry if it is a professional focus - maybe something along the lines of "it is about influencing people, not saying no to them"

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