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Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
    Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

    https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
    archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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    spzb@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @davidgerard “novel GenAI usage for which best practices and safeguards are not yet fully established”

    How difficult is it to say “no, don’t do that”?

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
      Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

      https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
      archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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      @davidgerard

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
        Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

        https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
        archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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        @davidgerard I don't understand? I fired all of the engineers and replaced them with meat-shaped accountability sinks.

        Why is everything breaking? Did I not do it enough?

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
          Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

          https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
          archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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          gavin57@toot.walesG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @davidgerard ‘assisted’ is doing some heavy lifting here.

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
            Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

            https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
            archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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            @davidgerard

            this is a subscription ad, not news.

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
              Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

              https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
              archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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              @davidgerard the labor-destroying slop machine cannot fail, it can only be failed imperfect humans

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                @davidgerard "could it... could it be the garbage generation machine's fault? No, it can't be, we had humans monitoring it's output! It must be the humans, fire all the humans!"

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                  Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                  https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                  archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                  @davidgerard shockedpikachu.gif

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                    Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                    https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                    archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                    jer@chirp.enworld.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @davidgerard "Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, "

                    Um wut? Does Amazon normally shove code out without code review or something? Even if its not ai-generated there should be a review process!

                    Oh well. It's not like a giant chunk of the internet is dependent on Amazon code quality!

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                      Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                      https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                      archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                      @davidgerard I’m sure putting the extra burden of more work and accountability on senior engineers will have no negative consequences.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                        Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                        https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                        archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                        @davidgerard This is very bad for my ego I should NOT have my wild theories proven correct

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                        • jer@chirp.enworld.orgJ jer@chirp.enworld.org

                          @davidgerard "Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, "

                          Um wut? Does Amazon normally shove code out without code review or something? Even if its not ai-generated there should be a review process!

                          Oh well. It's not like a giant chunk of the internet is dependent on Amazon code quality!

                          adrake@sfba.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Jer @davidgerard I don't know Amazon's practices specifically, but at most places I'm aware of, the baseline requirement is for review by any colleague who's familiar with the area being modified. Larger-scale changes or changes to sensitive areas will sometimes require review from some designated owner, who is probably (but not necessarily) more senior, and that would apply to anyone at any level. Unusual to require that on a really large class of changes purely based on seniority!

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