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Sometimes it feels like people here will simultaneously complain about how bad healthcare is (it's rubbish) while also reminding themselves that "at least it's not as bad as the US."

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  • whatanerd@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sometimes it feels like people here will simultaneously complain about how bad healthcare is (it's rubbish) while also reminding themselves that "at least it's not as bad as the US."

    And like... idk. As a person from the US, I don't feel comforted that "at least it's not as bad" when it feels like it's... basically becoming exactly the same thing? Like, if everything is becoming part of a private clinic, specialists barely exist, and clinics are at capacity with available patient slots, then uh...

    ... you're not exactly doing better than the US, y'know?

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    • whatanerd@social.treehouse.systemsW whatanerd@social.treehouse.systems

      Sometimes it feels like people here will simultaneously complain about how bad healthcare is (it's rubbish) while also reminding themselves that "at least it's not as bad as the US."

      And like... idk. As a person from the US, I don't feel comforted that "at least it's not as bad" when it feels like it's... basically becoming exactly the same thing? Like, if everything is becoming part of a private clinic, specialists barely exist, and clinics are at capacity with available patient slots, then uh...

      ... you're not exactly doing better than the US, y'know?

      whatanerd@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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      Honestly, I'm not a fan of "at least it's not as bad as the US" platitudes because it always just sounds like their rationale for doing nothing. "What we have sucks, but at least we aren't them!"

      Except... a lot of you are a lot closer to being "as bad as" you think the US is than you want to think you are.

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        @hipsterelectron Same, same. It's exhausting to listen to people complain about how "the US companies just want to steal their data" (true) when they ignore how complicit their own "but we want sovereignty!" governments are.

        Like, you think that US company is succeeding without your own government's complete complicity and selfish desire to have access to that data? Sure thing.

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        • whatanerd@social.treehouse.systemsW whatanerd@social.treehouse.systems

          @hipsterelectron Same, same. It's exhausting to listen to people complain about how "the US companies just want to steal their data" (true) when they ignore how complicit their own "but we want sovereignty!" governments are.

          Like, you think that US company is succeeding without your own government's complete complicity and selfish desire to have access to that data? Sure thing.

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          @whatanerd @hipsterelectron bonus points for replacing US big tech with "sovereign" EU big tech!

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            @whatanerd @hipsterelectron bonus points for replacing US big tech with "sovereign" EU big tech!

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            @brahms @hipsterelectron My favourite! "Oh, you mean they're recreating the same shit you said you didn't want, but it's okay if THEY MAKE IT?" Losing my absolute mind.

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            • whatanerd@social.treehouse.systemsW whatanerd@social.treehouse.systems

              Sometimes it feels like people here will simultaneously complain about how bad healthcare is (it's rubbish) while also reminding themselves that "at least it's not as bad as the US."

              And like... idk. As a person from the US, I don't feel comforted that "at least it's not as bad" when it feels like it's... basically becoming exactly the same thing? Like, if everything is becoming part of a private clinic, specialists barely exist, and clinics are at capacity with available patient slots, then uh...

              ... you're not exactly doing better than the US, y'know?

              enby_of_the_apocalypse@social.treehouse.systemsE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @whatanerd i feel like this is the case about so many things, many EU countries are always “not as bad as the US” but getting consistently worse at the same pace as the US (or faster even). “At least it’s not as bad here as in the US” becomes a way for people to convince themselves that things are fine and they don’t need to do anything about it, while politicians make it their mission to make things as bad as they can be while still just a little bit less bad than in the US.

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