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In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars.

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  • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

    For more on the electromechanical Angle Computer, see my article: https://www.righto.com/2026/04/B-52-star-tracker-angle-computer.html

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    @kenshirriff Do you know what accuracy it could achieve?

    I saw an interview with WW2 navigator who said he could only determine the location of the airfield to within 5 miles (with a sextant) .. in a bomber over Germany, he was lucky to even find the right town!

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    • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

      In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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      @kenshirriff stuff like this reminds me of 2 things:
      1 The Antikytheria mechanism.
      2 A short story (by Heinlein I think) I read many years ago, about the problems of building a spacecraft in a civilisation that has not discovered electricity.

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      • vk2bea@mastodon.radioV vk2bea@mastodon.radio

        @kenshirriff Do you know what accuracy it could achieve?

        I saw an interview with WW2 navigator who said he could only determine the location of the airfield to within 5 miles (with a sextant) .. in a bomber over Germany, he was lucky to even find the right town!

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        @vk2bea

        Idk, in WW2 for an allies bomber , wasn't every german town the right town?? 😉

        @kenshirriff

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        • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

          In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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          Poc :

          @mvhorlo

          Une autre forme d'"horlogerie"

          @kenshirriff

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          • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

            In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

            venatio@mstdn.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            @kenshirriff very cool

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            • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

              The "Astro Tracker" was the heart of the celestial navigation system. The 4-inch clear bubble stuck out from the top of the aircraft to view the stars. Inside, a telescope and photomultiplier tube tracked a star, steered by motors and prisms.

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              @kenshirriff Wait is this the inspiration for the R2 units plonked in the back of the Tie Fighters in Star Wars?

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              • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                @kenshirriff Welcome to the root physics of gyroscopic measures; brought to you by Spin Physics.

                Milankovitch would be proud.

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                • numodular@c.imN numodular@c.im

                  @kenshirriff Welcome to the root physics of gyroscopic measures; brought to you by Spin Physics.

                  Milankovitch would be proud.

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                  @numodular Although this unit looks like a gyroscope, it is not at all a gyroscope. There is nothing spinning.

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                  • vk2bea@mastodon.radioV vk2bea@mastodon.radio

                    @kenshirriff Do you know what accuracy it could achieve?

                    I saw an interview with WW2 navigator who said he could only determine the location of the airfield to within 5 miles (with a sextant) .. in a bomber over Germany, he was lucky to even find the right town!

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                    @vk2bea They say that the accuracy was within 0.1 degree.

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                    • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                      @vk2bea They say that the accuracy was within 0.1 degree.

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                      @kenshirriff .. so about 11 km at 34 degrees north.

                      I guess with a 10 megaton bomb, it's good enough. If Dr Strangelove is anything to go by, the final bombing run used radar 😸

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                      • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                        @numodular Although this unit looks like a gyroscope, it is not at all a gyroscope. There is nothing spinning.

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                        @kenshirriff I shall update the media to stop the spin, and send the astronauts back to the moon 😉

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                        • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                          In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                          @kenshirriff @siracusa wasn’t there an SR-71 story about it this not working in the southern hemisphere? Or they couldn’t fit both halves in memory or some such?

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                          • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                            In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                            @kenshirriff is this the same one that was in the SR-71?

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                            • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                              In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                              @kenshirriff #AnalogComputing

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                              • dnaunton@fosstodon.orgD dnaunton@fosstodon.org

                                @kenshirriff is this the same one that was in the SR-71?

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                                @dnaunton The SR-71 used a different system, the NAS-14V2 astroinertial navigation system. Nortronics built the SR-71 system and Kollsman built the B-52 system. The B-52 system is said to have also been used in the Hound Dog cruise missile. A very detailed document on the SR-71 star tracker is here: https://audiopub.co.kr/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/NAS-14V2-ANS-System.pdf

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                                • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                                  Poc :

                                  @mvhorlo

                                  Une autre forme d'"horlogerie"

                                  @kenshirriff

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                                  @tanavit @kenshirriff ouchh cet engin.

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                                  • yertle@mastodon.cloudY yertle@mastodon.cloud

                                    @kenshirriff @siracusa wasn’t there an SR-71 story about it this not working in the southern hemisphere? Or they couldn’t fit both halves in memory or some such?

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                                    @yertle Yeah, that sounds familiar.

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                                    • nilz@norden.socialN nilz@norden.social

                                      @vk2bea

                                      Idk, in WW2 for an allies bomber , wasn't every german town the right town?? 😉

                                      @kenshirriff

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                                      @nilz not if you wanted to hit a bridge...
                                      @vk2bea @kenshirriff

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                                      • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                                        For more on the electromechanical Angle Computer, see my article: https://www.righto.com/2026/04/B-52-star-tracker-angle-computer.html

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                                        @kenshirriff Thank you, this is a wonderful article! I had been wondering how celestial navigation worked in planes and missiles.

                                        For all practical intents and purposes, this information is useless for me, but reading the article makes me happy.

                                        If knowing how to build a positioning system for a strategic bomber in a post-GPS/GNSS world ever becomes practically useful to me: thank you again and may God help us all.

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                                        • richrants@toot.communityR richrants@toot.community

                                          @kenshirriff Thank you, this is a wonderful article! I had been wondering how celestial navigation worked in planes and missiles.

                                          For all practical intents and purposes, this information is useless for me, but reading the article makes me happy.

                                          If knowing how to build a positioning system for a strategic bomber in a post-GPS/GNSS world ever becomes practically useful to me: thank you again and may God help us all.

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                                          @richrants @kenshirriff I was involved in the development of a star tracker for a satellite: It's basically a camera, a database of all the known stars and some fancy algorithms. You point it at an arbitrary bit of the sky and it gives you you're attitude relative to the rest of the universe, no other external inputs necessary except for the starlight 😄

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