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  3. In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars.

In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars.

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  • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

    Inside the Angle Computer, a star pointer corresponds to the position of the star on the celestial sphere. Gears move the pointer to match the star's coordinates (called the declination and Local Hour Angle).

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    The back of the Angle Computer has devices called synchros that read out the star's position relative to the aircraft. At the bottom, motors drive the mechanism.

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      The back of the Angle Computer has devices called synchros that read out the star's position relative to the aircraft. At the bottom, motors drive the mechanism.

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      This close-up of the Angle Computer shows the complexity of the gears inside. The thicker brass-colored cylinders are differential gears that add two signals using rotations.

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        This close-up of the Angle Computer shows the complexity of the gears inside. The thicker brass-colored cylinders are differential gears that add two signals using rotations.

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        For more on the electromechanical Angle Computer, see my article: https://www.righto.com/2026/04/B-52-star-tracker-angle-computer.html

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        • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

          In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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          @kenshirriff Fantastic!

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          • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

            In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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            @kenshirriff

            Amazing but where did they keep they pigeons? 😩

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            • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

              For more on the electromechanical Angle Computer, see my article: https://www.righto.com/2026/04/B-52-star-tracker-angle-computer.html

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              @kenshirriff Do you know what accuracy it could achieve?

              I saw an interview with WW2 navigator who said he could only determine the location of the airfield to within 5 miles (with a sextant) .. in a bomber over Germany, he was lucky to even find the right town!

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              • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                @kenshirriff stuff like this reminds me of 2 things:
                1 The Antikytheria mechanism.
                2 A short story (by Heinlein I think) I read many years ago, about the problems of building a spacecraft in a civilisation that has not discovered electricity.

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                • vk2bea@mastodon.radioV vk2bea@mastodon.radio

                  @kenshirriff Do you know what accuracy it could achieve?

                  I saw an interview with WW2 navigator who said he could only determine the location of the airfield to within 5 miles (with a sextant) .. in a bomber over Germany, he was lucky to even find the right town!

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                  @vk2bea

                  Idk, in WW2 for an allies bomber , wasn't every german town the right town?? 😉

                  @kenshirriff

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                  • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                    In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                    Poc :

                    @mvhorlo

                    Une autre forme d'"horlogerie"

                    @kenshirriff

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                    • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                      In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                      @kenshirriff very cool

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                      • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                        The "Astro Tracker" was the heart of the celestial navigation system. The 4-inch clear bubble stuck out from the top of the aircraft to view the stars. Inside, a telescope and photomultiplier tube tracked a star, steered by motors and prisms.

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                        @kenshirriff Wait is this the inspiration for the R2 units plonked in the back of the Tie Fighters in Star Wars?

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                        • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                          In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                          @kenshirriff Welcome to the root physics of gyroscopic measures; brought to you by Spin Physics.

                          Milankovitch would be proud.

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                          • numodular@c.imN numodular@c.im

                            @kenshirriff Welcome to the root physics of gyroscopic measures; brought to you by Spin Physics.

                            Milankovitch would be proud.

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                            @numodular Although this unit looks like a gyroscope, it is not at all a gyroscope. There is nothing spinning.

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                            • vk2bea@mastodon.radioV vk2bea@mastodon.radio

                              @kenshirriff Do you know what accuracy it could achieve?

                              I saw an interview with WW2 navigator who said he could only determine the location of the airfield to within 5 miles (with a sextant) .. in a bomber over Germany, he was lucky to even find the right town!

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                              @vk2bea They say that the accuracy was within 0.1 degree.

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                              • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                                @vk2bea They say that the accuracy was within 0.1 degree.

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                                @kenshirriff .. so about 11 km at 34 degrees north.

                                I guess with a 10 megaton bomb, it's good enough. If Dr Strangelove is anything to go by, the final bombing run used radar 😸

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                                • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                                  @numodular Although this unit looks like a gyroscope, it is not at all a gyroscope. There is nothing spinning.

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                                  @kenshirriff I shall update the media to stop the spin, and send the astronauts back to the moon 😉

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                                  • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                                    In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                                    @kenshirriff @siracusa wasn’t there an SR-71 story about it this not working in the southern hemisphere? Or they couldn’t fit both halves in memory or some such?

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                                    • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                                      In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                                      @kenshirriff is this the same one that was in the SR-71?

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                                      • kenshirriff@oldbytes.spaceK kenshirriff@oldbytes.space

                                        In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...

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                                        @kenshirriff #AnalogComputing

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                                        • dnaunton@fosstodon.orgD dnaunton@fosstodon.org

                                          @kenshirriff is this the same one that was in the SR-71?

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                                          @dnaunton The SR-71 used a different system, the NAS-14V2 astroinertial navigation system. Nortronics built the SR-71 system and Kollsman built the B-52 system. The B-52 system is said to have also been used in the Hound Dog cruise missile. A very detailed document on the SR-71 star tracker is here: https://audiopub.co.kr/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/NAS-14V2-ANS-System.pdf

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