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  • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

    688: A Company Man
    https://atp.fm/688

    John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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    @atpfm @siracusa but what if he turns out a bigger arsehole ?

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    • dschaub@mstdn.socialD dschaub@mstdn.social

      @atpfm
      @marcoarment

      Will Apple ever be a leader in AI models… probably not.

      Does that matter… absolutely not.

      AI is a commodity and a feature, not a platform. Apple will get enough AI, and companies that are nothing but AI will fail.

      So I feel, Apple failed at something that doesn’t matter much, so nothing bad for Cook there.

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      @dschaub @atpfm @marcoarment I feel like this is actually one of the right calls, looking at asymco's graph of Apple vs. other FAANG capex during the AI craze. Making a LLM type model dependent on scraping is not in the DNA in the company; why force a round peg into a round hole?

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      • T tylercheung@mastodon.social

        @dschaub @atpfm @marcoarment I feel like this is actually one of the right calls, looking at asymco's graph of Apple vs. other FAANG capex during the AI craze. Making a LLM type model dependent on scraping is not in the DNA in the company; why force a round peg into a round hole?

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        @dschaub @atpfm @marcoarment But coincidentally, the company is better positioned to weather the AI revolution than most in that they have the most important part - the hardware w/ unified memory model and best perf/watt in the industry. The only thing they need (and admittedly it is a big IF) is to develop Metal/MLX into a library that beats CUDA at it's own game, and evangelize it to game and AI developers.

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        • dschaub@mstdn.socialD dschaub@mstdn.social

          @siracusa

          I think the causation is wrong there.

          it isn’t “Tim is sticking around” that is the problem. It is “the Board and Ternus’ likely decision to continue to kiss Trump’s rear” that is.

          Anything Tim does is all Ternus’ fault… ignore the shell game.

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          @dschaub @siracusa well, Luca Brasi and Tommy Hagen were kept around for a reason...

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          • dschaub@mstdn.socialD dschaub@mstdn.social

            @atpfm

            I'm confused.

            It wasn't OK for Tim to kiss Trump's rear for Apple's sake, but it is OK for Tim to kiss Trump's rear for Ternus' sake?

            That is still Ternus & the Board's responsibility. Nothing has changed.

            Every time Cook kisses Trump's rear, that is Ternus doing it.

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            @dschaub @atpfm the CEO reports to the board. If the chairman is Executive Chairman, the board reports to the Executive Chairman.

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            • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

              @dschaub Like I said on the show, I think it's a lot harder to make a U-turn on a policy when the guy who created the policy is looking over your shoulder. I think Tim will loom large in Ternus's mind (and in his actual working life, probably) during his early time as CEO.

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              rowdy26@mastodon.social
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              @siracusa @dschaub imagine a new CEO having Tim Cook’s advice weighing on their mind..better having someone less successful I guess.

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              • lukeratta@mastodon.socialL lukeratta@mastodon.social

                @atpfm Marco defending subscriptions to use hardware that you’ve already purchased definitely wasn’t on my bingo card.

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                @lukeratta @atpfm when you’re making a living from an app subscription model and you pay zero $’s for it’s content… you can only hide your contradictions so much.

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                • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                  688: A Company Man
                  https://atp.fm/688

                  John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                  @atpfm @siracusa reading my mind 🙂

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                  • pfernandes@mastodon.socialP pfernandes@mastodon.social

                    @atpfm @siracusa reading my mind 🙂

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                    @atpfm @Marco Overcast transcript implementation is brilliant. Fantastic job, from the Mac mini farm idea to the APP.

                    Parabéns! 👌

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                    • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                      688: A Company Man
                      https://atp.fm/688

                      John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                      @atpfm @siracusa I have a Mac Pro armchair theory over coffee after listening to the live stream: they killed it before Ternus’s ascension to make it unambiguous that there wasn’t anything coming in the future. (We all certainly would have run rampant with it in limbo knowing he had an ATP Believe shirt in a closet somewhere)

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                      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                        688: A Company Man
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                        John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                        @atpfm I wear a dress shirt every day for work and this is how I roll my sleeves. I move my arms around teaching and have no issues!

                        https://youtube.com/shorts/acOSFaURpMM?si=NTM_SayM2P_rslwv

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                        • blazesanders@techhub.socialB blazesanders@techhub.social

                          @atpfm

                          I’m ok with locking hardware features behind software, since it’s often cheaper (and faster which makes company more money) to have fewer product SKU since assembly line doesn’t have to be swapped / reconfigured.

                          These savings can sometimes be passed down to users.

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                          @blazesanders @atpfm You could still have fewer SKUs, just give everyone access to the hardware they paid for. If the hardware is physically present, charging to access it is not reducing costs, it’s just adding an artificial limitation to the product after the fact.

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                          • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                            688: A Company Man
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                            John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                            @atpfm with software locking, you could argue Sirus radio was a service like cable. Also the problem with paying for heated seats was that it was seen as a money grab on already expensive luxury cars. I think it was BMW. This wasn't some cheap KIA or Hyundai.

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                            • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                              688: A Company Man
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                              John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                              @atpfm My god… https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/style/tim-cook-apple-ceo-fashion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.c1A.edmw.MWhUxZM4-wtS&smid=nytcore-ios-share

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                              • atlauren@mastodon.socialA atlauren@mastodon.social

                                @dschaub @atpfm the CEO reports to the board. If the chairman is Executive Chairman, the board reports to the Executive Chairman.

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                                @atlauren @atpfm

                                I don't know how Apple's bylaws work, but I would be surprised if the Executive Chairman actually has more voting power than the rest of the board.

                                The board made Cook Executive Chairman for appearances. He is not needed.

                                If it comes down to a conflict between the two, the board would be derelict to side with Cook.

                                Ternus absolutely has the actual power in this situation, so Ternus is the one who is responsible, unless the board gets rid of him.

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                                • dschaub@mstdn.socialD dschaub@mstdn.social

                                  @atlauren @atpfm

                                  I don't know how Apple's bylaws work, but I would be surprised if the Executive Chairman actually has more voting power than the rest of the board.

                                  The board made Cook Executive Chairman for appearances. He is not needed.

                                  If it comes down to a conflict between the two, the board would be derelict to side with Cook.

                                  Ternus absolutely has the actual power in this situation, so Ternus is the one who is responsible, unless the board gets rid of him.

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                                  @atlauren @atpfm

                                  Cook is a figure head. Ternus will be in charge unless the board fires him.

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                                  • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                                    688: A Company Man
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                                    John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                                    @atpfm I was crushed that there was no black iPhone Pro this year. I was thrilled that there was a silver MacBook Neo. I don't dare let John Ternus see that the MacBook Neo Silver t-shirt didn't make the threshold. I immediately purchased one.

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                                    • mpfef98@mastodon.socialM mpfef98@mastodon.social

                                      @atpfm UPenn might not meet @siracusa ‘s high standards but it is an Ivy League school, FWIW

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                                      @mpfef98 @atpfm @siracusa yeah kind of surprised he downplayed it like it was just some state university.

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                                      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                                        688: A Company Man
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                                        John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                                        @atpfm I lost it when Marco started describing the material that Ternus and Cook were wearing in the press release.

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                                        • marinaepelman@mastodon.socialM marinaepelman@mastodon.social

                                          @atpfm My god… https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/style/tim-cook-apple-ceo-fashion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.c1A.edmw.MWhUxZM4-wtS&smid=nytcore-ios-share

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                                          @marinaepelman @atpfm Ha, also came here to post that. Marco does as good a job identifying specific brands as a NYT fashion reporter, which this author only does a couple times

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