When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.
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@aral At least for Twitter, this is not true. Yeah, the page exhorts you to create an account - but it *does* show the post. At least on desktop; maybe it's different on mobile.
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@aral malware
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral perfect example of why public agencies should not be using those as their primary press release forum.
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@aral @_elena @vicfroh This is why I firmly condemn people relying to these platforms only. You have no way to follow their content, despite using RSS like civil people, but platforms deny the access to public, to force you joining.
This should be illegal, at least because when you publicly post on those platforms and you choose "public post", they say "it's available inside and outside the platform".
And, well, automated scanners can access those contents indexing them, while humans can't!
And no, it's not the same thing of blogs' member-only contents. That's a different matter.@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh and it's even worse when governments do it. Or public announcement services with important info, like natural disasters.
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral I don't listen to some podcasts I like anymore because they only use this platforms to stay in contact with listeners. So if you can not comment without account why should you listen to it - it must be an extraordinary high quality podcast with very important content where no comment is needed at all.
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@aral perfect example of why public agencies should not be using those as their primary press release forum.
@dresstokilt @aral THIS. Why I cannot fave it more than once???
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
I tried X again a few months ago and got a warning because I was posting about the Genocide in Gaza.
I kind of took it as a badge of honour, cos it's a horrendous place. So much racism!
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral I understand where you're coming from, but since I regularly follow links and end up reading posts on X, Instagram and FB (though I might have to dismiss a popup), I know you have half a point. Sensitive content might be hidden, but I've never run in to an example. Admittedly I use this old thing called a laptop. YMMV on a smartphone.
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral which you could argue is a good thing
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@aral At least for Twitter, this is not true. Yeah, the page exhorts you to create an account - but it *does* show the post. At least on desktop; maybe it's different on mobile.
@bontchev I guess my screenshot tool was lying.
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
It's even simpler. If you post on those platforms, I'll never see the post, as I decided long ago that twitter and facebook (now X, facebook, and instagram) don't need my traffic, ever. If it's important or ugly enough, I'm sure someone will screenshot it and repost, but you (and more importantly, the oligarchs) won't get my tracking or ad revenues.
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Fediverse code folk are the only public media authors to have any (actually, substantial) clue in the last 30 years. That sounds crazy written down but after a few days of thinking about it, i cant think of any others.
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@_elena Personally, I would honestly rather see public institutions offering a variety of ways to access what they publish.
Including easily located full-text RSS feeds through platforms they control. (Minimal third parties in between them and the people who want to access the information.)
And yes, Fediverse and their own web sites.
@mkj @_elena @aral also known as https://indieweb.org/POSSE
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Great stuff. If they post on there then I have to assume they don't want me to know what they have to say.
And I really don't like to see mirrors of their posts on Mastodon so they can shout and they don't see any replies.Bernie Sanders does it too.
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral Hell, I even see this for a lot of Bluesky posts
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@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I fully agree that independent journalism requires financing that is independent from state or corporations.
However, in my country for example, press codex states the duty of informing the public fully and truthful. Imho, the public includes such individuals that are less fortunate and not able to afford a subscription.
50 years back, before digital publishing, printed newspapers could be evaluated without financial obligation... head articles at the least.
@Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I've returned to subscribing to dead tree newspapers. Subscriptions usually offer access to the paper's website as well but I avoid reading online.
One reason for this, besides that I can't be tracked as I leaf through the pages of a newspaper is that I can keep an archive of the news at home.
I have found it increasingly difficult in recent years to find articles that I remember reading. And, old content seems to get deleted more often these days.
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@Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh I agree. And, talking about digital newspapers, I'm blind. There are tons of digital newspapers which, if I pay them, I them find out they're IMAGES. Just PDF images not readable by assistive tech. What does it mean? Throw money down the toilet drain.
There are many blind-related associations which provide newspapers, but they decide which agreements to sign, according to political positions or whatever else, the result is that we can access what others want us to.@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Accessibility is another issue of course, for which digital publishing is a major step forward. My mother is blind, too. Back two decades ago, I read the newspaper to her. Then I installed her a OCR program which made her independent of me.
Anyway, my point was that information should be accessible for all, not just the well situated.
It's like with FOSS. We provide it for free. Those who value us donate generously, paying for the less fortunate, too.
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@Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I've returned to subscribing to dead tree newspapers. Subscriptions usually offer access to the paper's website as well but I avoid reading online.
One reason for this, besides that I can't be tracked as I leaf through the pages of a newspaper is that I can keep an archive of the news at home.
I have found it increasingly difficult in recent years to find articles that I remember reading. And, old content seems to get deleted more often these days.
@Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Oh and the suspicion on my part that AI will hallucinate copies of news articles, altering facts and images along the way, it seems essential to me in the future to be able to go back to a copy of an old newspaper in my archive to check the facts of a story again.
