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’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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    ciarani@mastodon.green
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    @Workshopshed It is certainly a digital detox, and I like the alliteration of that! I'm still reaching for something more positive. I've been so struck by the fact that the non-Big Tech solutions are actually better, as in 'better designed', that I want to turn the focus from 'I am giving something up' to 'I have gained something, I now use a Better Thing'. It's like an upgrade. I can't express it properly, I realise here - this is why I need a word for it!

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @donaldham This is exactly it. Every time, there's a discount, or a good offer like free breakfast, or something like that.

      'Reverse showrooming.' I love this phrase and will be adopting it, please and thank you. I've done this too, browsing Amazon (back when its site search actually worked) or Booking.com websites to narrow choices down or check some details, then I'd buy the actual book at my local independent bookshop or book the accommodation directly with the hotel or B&B.

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      @CiaraNi
      From 2001-2011 I was an emerging tech consultant for Fortune 500 companies. A huge concern then was showrooming.

      That's the practice of going to a physical presence retailer, say Best Buy, to inspect a TV, then buy it online from Amazon.

      It's very satisfying to turn the tables on big tech.

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      • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

        @CiaraNi
        Luddites got you covered..

        Going Full Lud.
        Put a little Lud in your life.

        ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @faduda I am definitely enjoying putting a little Lud in my life. The more Lud, the better. I am still reaching for a word that focuses on the fact that I am not Boycotting A Bad Thing but Gaining A Good Thing. If that makes sense. I am having difficulty explaining myself, I realise. This is why I need a word for it!

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        • donaldham@mstdn.socialD donaldham@mstdn.social

          @CiaraNi
          From 2001-2011 I was an emerging tech consultant for Fortune 500 companies. A huge concern then was showrooming.

          That's the practice of going to a physical presence retailer, say Best Buy, to inspect a TV, then buy it online from Amazon.

          It's very satisfying to turn the tables on big tech.

          ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @donaldham Ah! Now I get the wider context. Oh yes, how satisyfing that this is being flipped around now!

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Workshopshed Oh how lovely! I have never heard of Mingei before. That is a nice analogy for the 'disenshittifying' process. That was so pleasing to learn about. Thanks for sharing the link.

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            • gmc@friends.chasmcity.netG gmc@friends.chasmcity.net
              @CiaraNi @oldrup @JohanEmpa What's Steady? You've got a link?
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              @gmc I only know Steady from using it to pay my Mastodon-green membership. I just signed up as an alternative to using Patreon. I don't know anything about it from the host side, if that is what you meant. Here's the site link:

              Link Preview Image
              Steady – You create. We take care of the rest.

              Start your newsletter or membership on Steady – simple tools, real experts, and a team that grows with you. Get started for free now.

              favicon

              Steady (steady.page)

              @oldrup @JohanEmpa

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              • gmc@friends.chasmcity.netG gmc@friends.chasmcity.net
                @CiaraNi @oldrup @JohanEmpa What's Steady? You've got a link?
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                @gmc @CiaraNi @oldrup Steady is a German membership platform. https://steady.page/en/

                This is how our page for Mastodon.green looks like https://steady.page/en/albinsocial/about

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                • grb090423@mastodon.socialG grb090423@mastodon.social

                  @CiaraNi

                  It sounds so much better.

                  I know people who use both of those horrible sites we've mentioned and they are very much under the impression they're onto something good. I guess it's a matter of believing the hype. 🤦‍♀️

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                  @grb090423 I think we all just slowly got entangled in these solutions. The Big Tech Bros designed them to manipulate us, to destroy competition, to deceive us into thinking that we were gaining something, to make it expensive for us to leave. And 'everyone' used them. No wonder it's been hard to see a way out, or even to realise that we wanted to find a way out, a better way.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @donaldham Ah! Now I get the wider context. Oh yes, how satisyfing that this is being flipped around now!

                    hanktank61@nerdjoy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @CiaraNi @donaldham
                    The only thing is, based on latest experiences in Scotland last year. Only a few commercial places rented out via AirBnb. The owner(s) far away, a local system in the town for cleaning, repairing accommodations. No private owners to please.
                    Charming old town with even independent bakeries and groceries. "Yes. we do get some more visitors here. Your places were empty, rundown. In good shape now".
                    For this year we did it direct in a similar place without Uber-tourism.

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      Before I could pick my 2026 goal for #DanmarkSkifter, I did a digital status. I was mildly surprised when I saw my 2025 digital changes together. I looked at the list and thought: ’Tell me you hang out in the Fediverse without telling me you hang out in the Fediverse.’

                      From Outlook to Tuta
                      From Office to Libre
                      From MS Authenticator to Ente Authenticator
                      From Google Play to F-Droid
                      From Spotify to AntennaPod
                      From Firefox to Vivaldi
                      From DuckDuckGo to NoAIDuckDuckGo
                      And I bought a back-up drive.

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                      Impressive!

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                        #DanmarkSkifter

                        lindarosesmit@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @CiaraNi liberation. Enlightenment

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          @stveje

                          "It's only the bad thing that needed a new word"

                          That's it! I was hoping for relief and liberation, which is what I'm getting. But I was so focused on escaping the Bad Thing that I didn't anticipate how much *better* the non-Big Tech replacement solutions would be. It doesn't feel as negative as 'disenshittifying', but more positive. As an end user, every alternative to Big Tech solution so far feels like an upgrade.

                          #DanmarkSkifter

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                          @CiaraNi It’s a bit like the difference between the carefully staged lives and airbrushed beauty of influencers versus real people and real life. The former may dazzle and fascinate, but it’s a hollow thing. The alternative to Big Tech is tech made with enthusiasm and authenticity. It may not be perfect-looking and shiny, it may even have flaws, but even flaws can be part of the charm.

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            @grb090423 I think we all just slowly got entangled in these solutions. The Big Tech Bros designed them to manipulate us, to destroy competition, to deceive us into thinking that we were gaining something, to make it expensive for us to leave. And 'everyone' used them. No wonder it's been hard to see a way out, or even to realise that we wanted to find a way out, a better way.

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                            @CiaraNi

                            Absolutely. It's quite sad but as you say, we've all been taken in by the Big Tech nasties, in one way or another.

                            Time to get out!

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                            • grb090423@mastodon.socialG grb090423@mastodon.social

                              @CiaraNi

                              Absolutely. It's quite sad but as you say, we've all been taken in by the Big Tech nasties, in one way or another.

                              Time to get out!

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                              @grb090423 Agreed!

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                @stveje

                                "It's only the bad thing that needed a new word"

                                That's it! I was hoping for relief and liberation, which is what I'm getting. But I was so focused on escaping the Bad Thing that I didn't anticipate how much *better* the non-Big Tech replacement solutions would be. It doesn't feel as negative as 'disenshittifying', but more positive. As an end user, every alternative to Big Tech solution so far feels like an upgrade.

                                #DanmarkSkifter

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                                @CiaraNi
                                C.S. Lewis wrote the book Surprised by Joy. For him it was religious, but perhaps the concept carries over to the mundane.
                                @stveje

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                                • hanktank61@nerdjoy.socialH hanktank61@nerdjoy.social

                                  @CiaraNi @donaldham
                                  The only thing is, based on latest experiences in Scotland last year. Only a few commercial places rented out via AirBnb. The owner(s) far away, a local system in the town for cleaning, repairing accommodations. No private owners to please.
                                  Charming old town with even independent bakeries and groceries. "Yes. we do get some more visitors here. Your places were empty, rundown. In good shape now".
                                  For this year we did it direct in a similar place without Uber-tourism.

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                                  @hanktank61 @CiaraNi

                                  Before we planned our UK trip (England/Scotland) I was alerted by the Rick Steves site that BnBs were vanishing, put out of business by the Air BnB model.

                                  They also reduce housing stock, are horrible neighborhood nuisances, and have all the revulsion factor of private equity funds. So we went out of our way to give business only to real BnBs with onsite owners.

                                  In Rancho Mirage, the CA desert resort town where I live, short term rentals have been outlawed.

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                                  • hanktank61@nerdjoy.socialH hanktank61@nerdjoy.social

                                    @CiaraNi @donaldham
                                    The only thing is, based on latest experiences in Scotland last year. Only a few commercial places rented out via AirBnb. The owner(s) far away, a local system in the town for cleaning, repairing accommodations. No private owners to please.
                                    Charming old town with even independent bakeries and groceries. "Yes. we do get some more visitors here. Your places were empty, rundown. In good shape now".
                                    For this year we did it direct in a similar place without Uber-tourism.

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                                    @hanktank61 @donaldham I've never understood the way that AirBnb manages to retain some of the aura of 'staying on my mate's mates couch', 'sticking it to The Man by swapping with real people' etc. A commercial company monopolising the few AirBnb accommodations in a small place, centralising and monopolising the supporting services around them, is the opposite of that to me. That's just a hotel or B&B, but even more centralised and cartel-ish.

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                                    • donaldham@mstdn.socialD donaldham@mstdn.social

                                      @hanktank61 @CiaraNi

                                      Before we planned our UK trip (England/Scotland) I was alerted by the Rick Steves site that BnBs were vanishing, put out of business by the Air BnB model.

                                      They also reduce housing stock, are horrible neighborhood nuisances, and have all the revulsion factor of private equity funds. So we went out of our way to give business only to real BnBs with onsite owners.

                                      In Rancho Mirage, the CA desert resort town where I live, short term rentals have been outlawed.

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                                      @donaldham @hanktank61 This is a fine summation of why AirBnbs are a problem, not a solution. It's good to see an increasing number of places banning short-term AirBnB rentals, thus standing up for the local community. Am glad they dealt with it where you are.

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                                      • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

                                        @CiaraNi It’s a bit like the difference between the carefully staged lives and airbrushed beauty of influencers versus real people and real life. The former may dazzle and fascinate, but it’s a hollow thing. The alternative to Big Tech is tech made with enthusiasm and authenticity. It may not be perfect-looking and shiny, it may even have flaws, but even flaws can be part of the charm.

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                                        @stveje Well said.

                                        "The alternative to Big Tech is tech made with enthusiasm and authenticity. It may not be perfect-looking and shiny, it may even have flaws, but even flaws can be part of the charm."

                                        Yes! I enjoy the quirks in small apps I've found via F-Droid. They'll have great features, then one mystery button that makes it freeze if you forget to avoid it. It's like that bockety table in your local café. You know it's bockety, you just have to shove a beer mat under it when it wobbles.

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                                        • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

                                          @CiaraNi
                                          C.S. Lewis wrote the book Surprised by Joy. For him it was religious, but perhaps the concept carries over to the mundane.
                                          @stveje

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                                          @notsoloud @stveje 'Surprised by Joy.' Ah, lovely. That gets at what I am trying to articulate here. My joy and surprise at discovering that I thought I was Boycotting Bad Thing, but in fact was Gaining Good Thing.

                                          #DanmarkSkifter

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