I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
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GET IT TOGETHER, HUMANS. Especially, at this moment, humans of the Oklahoman variety!
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#ignorance
#education
#history
#WWII
#PearlHarbor
#Hiroshima
#Nagasaki
#OklahomaEducation
#EDUCATE
#RESIST@courtcan Do not get me started on George Armstrong Custer
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I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
He's a Goodwill volunteer.
He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."
I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."
He looked at me blankly.
Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.
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So maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to require that any American who visits Japan has to go to the Hiroshima or Nagasaki Memorial Peace Parks.
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I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I had to tell him they were in Japan.
"But they're our allies."
I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."
Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.
Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA.
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you’re in Oklahoma?
if you see them or this happens again, ask them:
1. are their family evangelical?
2. were they homeschooled or sent to a charter school?
3. were they raised in a rural-ish area?i often half joke NYC isn't part of USA because this country is basically, at their best, a series of self-segregated silos stringed together by the land. but “self-segregation” is sociology-speak for a cult.
way too many americans are raised in cults without them even knowing.
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I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I had to tell him they were in Japan.
"But they're our allies."
I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."
Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.
Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA.
3/5
@courtcan I regret to inform you of how bad the situation is:
Kim Possible :kimoji_fire: (@kimlockhartga@beige.party)
@purplepadma J says that none of the new attorneys she works with knew what was significant about Pearl Harbor. None.
beige.party (beige.party)
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@courtcan I regret to inform you of how bad the situation is:
Kim Possible :kimoji_fire: (@kimlockhartga@beige.party)
@purplepadma J says that none of the new attorneys she works with knew what was significant about Pearl Harbor. None.
beige.party (beige.party)
@kimlockhartga Cripes. Now I really want to quiz my kid, but I'm kind of afraid to. @courtcan
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I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
He's a Goodwill volunteer.
He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."
I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."
He looked at me blankly.
Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.
1
@courtcan Very similar to any conversation I have at work that involves current events.
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@courtcan As a bonus he might even get to learn about the world's unluckiest man (or possibly luckiest, depending on how you look at it), Tsutomu Yamaguchi. He was in Hiroshima on business on the 6th of August 1945. He survived the bomb at 3km from ground zero, with ruptured eardrums and burns, and went home the next day. To Nagasaki. He was there when the bomb went off and survived that one too, also around 3km from ground zero. He died of cancer, though. In 2010.
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@kimlockhartga Cripes. Now I really want to quiz my kid, but I'm kind of afraid to. @courtcan
@ZenHeathen @courtcan I mean, I know it was decades ago, getting close to a century, but it is such important history.
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I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
He's a Goodwill volunteer.
He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."
I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."
He looked at me blankly.
Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.
1
@courtcan Omg
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Up to a point, a person's ignorance is not their fault. We all (with some glaring exceptions) know that there are things we don't know. When it comes to things we do know, sometimes we don't realize there's a gap in our knowledge. We can't know what we don't know.
But in this, the Year of Our AOC 2026, when the global conversation concerns a specific topic and plenty of information lies literally at our fingertips, there's not much excuse for *not* having done the assignment.
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@courtcan I once had a conversation with a MAGA family member in which I took the position that if I don’t feel I know enough about a topic to form an opinion about it, I can wait until I learn more before I express a position. They maintained that one *must* have an opinion about every topic, no matter how uninformed.
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This is a perfect example of what happens when your leaders are concerned with putting a Bible in every classroom and stripping school library shelves of books about penguins with two daddies -- instead of being concerned with actually *EDUCATING*.
Last I checked, Oklahoma is still dead last in quality of education nation-wide. And our leaders, despite their words to the contrary, like it that way.
Ignorant people are damned easy to hook by the nose and lead to the slaughter.
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Yes, "Ignorant people are damned easy to hook by the nose and lead to the slaughter."
For sixty years, they've been applying this goal to education in America, wherever the cultists have been able to take power. So now we have three generations of helplessly ignorant people deciding who will hook them by the nose.
Thanks for the bold statements of truth.
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@ZenHeathen @courtcan I mean, I know it was decades ago, getting close to a century, but it is such important history.
@kimlockhartga I think if you asked... well, GenX, for example... the top ten historical events of the 20th century, it would be on basically everyone's list. Yes, kids today aren't Xers, but the importance of the event which (largely) ended World War II and began the Cold War didn't just go away. Like, these kids are aware of the Apollo program, right? The Great Depression? Challenger? Hitler? @courtcan
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I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
He's a Goodwill volunteer.
He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."
I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."
He looked at me blankly.
Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.
1
@courtcan My sister b. Late 60s recently said also that the war was justified because she saw a video of Iranian men burning the American flag and calling for death to America and I thought, what? they have been doing that for generations. The difference is that I remember warm our living room was before the oil crisis in the 1970s. What can we do against the stratifying of generations now that everyone has a label and an in-group with which to identify?
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Yes, "Ignorant people are damned easy to hook by the nose and lead to the slaughter."
For sixty years, they've been applying this goal to education in America, wherever the cultists have been able to take power. So now we have three generations of helplessly ignorant people deciding who will hook them by the nose.
Thanks for the bold statements of truth.
@oldclumsy_nowmad @courtcan Hopelessly ignorant.
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I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
He's a Goodwill volunteer.
He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."
I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."
He looked at me blankly.
Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.
1
@courtcan
I see the exact samething every day. It doesnt help that last summer Terrist Trump deciced that 771,000 people are drug users, drunks or mentaly ill. Who am I talking about? Homeless people. Having named us, let #TheSilenceContinues begin. -
@courtcan I mean... you don't even need book learnin' to know that, I'm the same age group and I'm pretty sure we didn't cover it in high school history but damn it, I've seen movies! I've been on the Internet! There used to be documentaries about it on TV when I got home from school, it was pretty difficult to NOT hear about this from somewhere!
@uastronomer @courtcan I had so much fun watching PBS growing up. There was always something interesting for me to watch in the afternoons.
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GET IT TOGETHER, HUMANS. Especially, at this moment, humans of the Oklahoman variety!
5/5
#ignorance
#education
#history
#WWII
#PearlHarbor
#Hiroshima
#Nagasaki
#OklahomaEducation
#EDUCATE
#RESIST@courtcan There is a very good reason why, in my undergrad-level International Business class, when hostilities broke out,I spent about twenty minutes going over the history of international relations with Iran, starting with The Great Game, continuing on with Mossadegh and the coup that gave the Shah near-absolute power, to the Islamic Revolution and the Hostage Crisis, to the uneasy detente that lasted until recently, to the effects of the blockade. I do this to show that there’s trauma on both sides, to show that America’s hands are not clean in this, and to show that the blockade was completely foreseeable.
Because chances are, before that moment, those students probably had no clue of the history behind all of this. Where would they have learned it?
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I just finished talking to a man I don't know.
He's a Goodwill volunteer.
He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."
I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."
He looked at me blankly.
Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.
1
@courtcan which means he also doesn’t know about the Holocaust.
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@courtcan There is a very good reason why, in my undergrad-level International Business class, when hostilities broke out,I spent about twenty minutes going over the history of international relations with Iran, starting with The Great Game, continuing on with Mossadegh and the coup that gave the Shah near-absolute power, to the Islamic Revolution and the Hostage Crisis, to the uneasy detente that lasted until recently, to the effects of the blockade. I do this to show that there’s trauma on both sides, to show that America’s hands are not clean in this, and to show that the blockade was completely foreseeable.
Because chances are, before that moment, those students probably had no clue of the history behind all of this. Where would they have learned it?
@NicolaElle @courtcan well 11 to 13 year old me experiencing the hostage crisis certainly knew nothing about Mossadegh until much later.
Not knowing who the combatants were in WW2, though? I mean, there MOVIES about this.
