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  • courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
    courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
    courtcan@mastodon.social
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    #1

    I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

    He's a Goodwill volunteer.

    He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

    I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

    He looked at me blankly.

    Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

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    zenheathen@beige.partyZ 20002ist@thepit.social2 courtcan@mastodon.socialC ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG woe2you@beige.partyW 16 Replies Last reply
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    • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

      I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

      He's a Goodwill volunteer.

      He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

      I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

      He looked at me blankly.

      Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

      I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

      1

      zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
      zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
      zenheathen@beige.party
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      #2

      @courtcan πŸ‘€

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      • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

        I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

        He's a Goodwill volunteer.

        He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

        I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

        He looked at me blankly.

        Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

        I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

        1

        20002ist@thepit.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
        20002ist@thepit.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
        20002ist@thepit.social
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        #3

        @courtcan 🀦

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        • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

          I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

          He's a Goodwill volunteer.

          He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

          I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

          He looked at me blankly.

          Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

          I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

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          courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          courtcan@mastodon.social
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          #4

          Up to a point, a person's ignorance is not their fault. We all (with some glaring exceptions) know that there are things we don't know. When it comes to things we do know, sometimes we don't realize there's a gap in our knowledge. We can't know what we don't know.

          But in this, the Year of Our AOC 2026, when the global conversation concerns a specific topic and plenty of information lies literally at our fingertips, there's not much excuse for *not* having done the assignment.

          2/

          courtcan@mastodon.socialC feisty_lemming@zeroes.caF 2 Replies Last reply
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          • 20002ist@thepit.social2 20002ist@thepit.social

            @courtcan 🀦

            davej@dice.campD This user is from outside of this forum
            davej@dice.campD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @20002ist @courtcan

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            • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

              Up to a point, a person's ignorance is not their fault. We all (with some glaring exceptions) know that there are things we don't know. When it comes to things we do know, sometimes we don't realize there's a gap in our knowledge. We can't know what we don't know.

              But in this, the Year of Our AOC 2026, when the global conversation concerns a specific topic and plenty of information lies literally at our fingertips, there's not much excuse for *not* having done the assignment.

              2/

              courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

              I had to tell him they were in Japan.

              "But they're our allies."

              I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."

              Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.

              Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA. 😑😑😑

              3/5

              20002ist@thepit.social2 zenheathen@beige.partyZ courtcan@mastodon.socialC uastronomer@mastodon.monoceros.co.zaU mwyman@mastodon.socialM 7 Replies Last reply
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              • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

                He's a Goodwill volunteer.

                He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

                I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

                He looked at me blankly.

                Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

                1

                ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG This user is from outside of this forum
                ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @courtcan

                The instant depression is giving-way to blind fury.
                I fucking hate that guy. He failed at everything. He's never even tried.

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                • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                  I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                  I had to tell him they were in Japan.

                  "But they're our allies."

                  I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."

                  Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.

                  Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA. 😑😑😑

                  3/5

                  20002ist@thepit.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @courtcan This dude is too old for anyone to blame Ryan Walters, alas.

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                  • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                    I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                    I had to tell him they were in Japan.

                    "But they're our allies."

                    I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."

                    Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.

                    Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA. 😑😑😑

                    3/5

                    zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
                    zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
                    zenheathen@beige.party
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                    #9

                    @courtcan I grew up in butt-fuck nowhere, Ontario, Canada, I'm the same age as that guy, and I was totally aware of the basic strokes of WWII and especially Hiroshima and Nagasaki from childhood. There's little excuse for that guy's ignorance. I can't even get my head around it.

                    And not knowing that Japan was America's enemy in WWII? I cannot for the life of me imagine any American who hasn't heard of frickin' Pearl Harbour, even if you do spell it without the U!

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                    • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                      I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                      I had to tell him they were in Japan.

                      "But they're our allies."

                      I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."

                      Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.

                      Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA. 😑😑😑

                      3/5

                      courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                      courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      This is a perfect example of what happens when your leaders are concerned with putting a Bible in every classroom and stripping school library shelves of books about penguins with two daddies -- instead of being concerned with actually *EDUCATING*.

                      Last I checked, Oklahoma is still dead last in quality of education nation-wide. And our leaders, despite their words to the contrary, like it that way.

                      Ignorant people are damned easy to hook by the nose and lead to the slaughter.

                      4/5

                      zenheathen@beige.partyZ courtcan@mastodon.socialC oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO mjglass@mstdn.caM 4 Replies Last reply
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                      • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                        This is a perfect example of what happens when your leaders are concerned with putting a Bible in every classroom and stripping school library shelves of books about penguins with two daddies -- instead of being concerned with actually *EDUCATING*.

                        Last I checked, Oklahoma is still dead last in quality of education nation-wide. And our leaders, despite their words to the contrary, like it that way.

                        Ignorant people are damned easy to hook by the nose and lead to the slaughter.

                        4/5

                        zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @courtcan "I love the poorly-educated!", the con-man famously said.

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                        • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                          I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                          I had to tell him they were in Japan.

                          "But they're our allies."

                          I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."

                          Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.

                          Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA. 😑😑😑

                          3/5

                          uastronomer@mastodon.monoceros.co.zaU This user is from outside of this forum
                          uastronomer@mastodon.monoceros.co.zaU This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @courtcan I mean... you don't even need book learnin' to know that, I'm the same age group and I'm pretty sure we didn't cover it in high school history but damn it, I've seen movies! I've been on the Internet! There used to be documentaries about it on TV when I got home from school, it was pretty difficult to NOT hear about this from somewhere!

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                          • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                            This is a perfect example of what happens when your leaders are concerned with putting a Bible in every classroom and stripping school library shelves of books about penguins with two daddies -- instead of being concerned with actually *EDUCATING*.

                            Last I checked, Oklahoma is still dead last in quality of education nation-wide. And our leaders, despite their words to the contrary, like it that way.

                            Ignorant people are damned easy to hook by the nose and lead to the slaughter.

                            4/5

                            courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                            courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            GET IT TOGETHER, HUMANS. Especially, at this moment, humans of the Oklahoman variety!

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                            #ignorance
                            #education
                            #history
                            #WWII
                            #PearlHarbor
                            #Hiroshima
                            #Nagasaki
                            #OklahomaEducation
                            #EDUCATE
                            #RESIST

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                            • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                              I truly cannot comprehend how any US-American GenXer or older Millennial (or any US citizen currently over the age of...15? 18 at the most?) can be wholly unfamiliar with the names Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                              I had to tell him they were in Japan.

                              "But they're our allies."

                              I shook my head. "They weren't in WWII."

                              Our species has got to get curious and dig deeper. This futzing about on the meager surface is juvenile.

                              Furthermore, GER YOUR EDUCATION THE FUCK TOGETHER, OKLAHOMA. 😑😑😑

                              3/5

                              mwyman@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @courtcan how does a GenXer or millennial get to 2026 without even knowing the US fought Japan in WWII? Like, Pearl Harbor metaphors were a thing about 9/11!

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                              • 20002ist@thepit.social2 20002ist@thepit.social

                                @courtcan This dude is too old for anyone to blame Ryan Walters, alas.

                                courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @20002ist True, but Walters was just the latest person in charge of education whose priorities were out of whack. He was a symptom of the underlying rot.

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                                • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                                  @courtcan I grew up in butt-fuck nowhere, Ontario, Canada, I'm the same age as that guy, and I was totally aware of the basic strokes of WWII and especially Hiroshima and Nagasaki from childhood. There's little excuse for that guy's ignorance. I can't even get my head around it.

                                  And not knowing that Japan was America's enemy in WWII? I cannot for the life of me imagine any American who hasn't heard of frickin' Pearl Harbour, even if you do spell it without the U!

                                  courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @ZenHeathen I'm sorry we spell it wrong. I'm trying to get them to change to the metric system first. πŸ˜†

                                  I grew up in Germany, where our teachers did not necessarily *want* to engage in the uncomfortable process of teaching us about WWII, but they did it anyway. I don't remember *not* knowing all of those broad strokes.

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                                  • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                    @ZenHeathen I'm sorry we spell it wrong. I'm trying to get them to change to the metric system first. πŸ˜†

                                    I grew up in Germany, where our teachers did not necessarily *want* to engage in the uncomfortable process of teaching us about WWII, but they did it anyway. I don't remember *not* knowing all of those broad strokes.

                                    zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @courtcan Oh, the United States is officially on the metric system. It's just that you don't *use* it or talk about it. πŸ˜‰

                                    I grew up in Canada, but with German parents. Of no surprise to you, we didn't talk about it at all. But it's background radiation to everything in my generation. Chornobyl, the Cold War, why "nukes" are even a thing, etc on backward. I didn't think it was possible not to know about that stuff. I mean, half of the Movies of the Week were about that stuff.

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                                    • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                      I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

                                      He's a Goodwill volunteer.

                                      He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

                                      I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

                                      He looked at me blankly.

                                      Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                                      I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

                                      1

                                      woe2you@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @courtcan As a bonus he might even get to learn about the world's unluckiest man (or possibly luckiest, depending on how you look at it), Tsutomu Yamaguchi. He was in Hiroshima on business on the 6th of August 1945. He survived the bomb at 3km from ground zero, with ruptured eardrums and burns, and went home the next day. To Nagasaki. He was there when the bomb went off and survived that one too, also around 3km from ground zero. He died of cancer, though. In 2010.

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                                      • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                        I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

                                        He's a Goodwill volunteer.

                                        He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

                                        I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

                                        He looked at me blankly.

                                        Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                                        I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

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                                        jredlund@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @courtcan And the argument that "Iran must not have a nuclear weapon" fails to account for the fact that the withdrawal of the U.S. nuclear umbrella from Asia and from Europe will inspire many other countries, including Japan, South Korea, and probably Ukraine, to develop their own. If wars of conquest become the norm again, everyone will think they need a nuke. "Iran must not have a nuke" is just a slogan that ignores the collapse of the world order that this regime has set in motion and the consequences thereof.

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                                        • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                          I just finished talking to a man I don't know.

                                          He's a Goodwill volunteer.

                                          He thinks the Iran war is justified because "if they get nuclear weapons, they're just crazy enough to fire one."

                                          I said, "Well, our nation is the only one that's been crazy enough to do that so far."

                                          He looked at me blankly.

                                          Further conversation revealed that this man, who is in his late 40s or early 50s, did not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

                                          I was too floored to do more than suggest researching the history.

                                          1

                                          laughingmaus@glammr.usL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @courtcan <sharp intake of breath>

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