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WHAT DO YOU MEAN, 1 FLUID OUNCE OF WATER DOESNT WEIGH 1 OUNCE

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  • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

    Okay apparently the US and UK use the same ounce for weight, and the UK fl oz is 1 oz weight of water, but the US fl oz is slightly different and is apparently based on how wine was measured in the UK pre-1824???

    everything I find out about imperial measurements just makes me more perplexed

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    @daisy Need (a lot) more of that pre-1824 measure before it starts making sense

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    • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

      Okay apparently the US and UK use the same ounce for weight, and the UK fl oz is 1 oz weight of water, but the US fl oz is slightly different and is apparently based on how wine was measured in the UK pre-1824???

      everything I find out about imperial measurements just makes me more perplexed

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      @daisy If it makes you feel better, I've been dealing with it for my whole life and I still have to double check how many ounces are in each unit because we just use mass and volume seemingly at random.

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      • coderanger@cloudisland.nzC coderanger@cloudisland.nz

        @daisy If it makes you feel better, I've been dealing with it for my whole life and I still have to double check how many ounces are in each unit because we just use mass and volume seemingly at random.

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        @coderanger The ability to convert between units in my head is something I definitely take for granted

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        • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

          @coderanger The ability to convert between units in my head is something I definitely take for granted

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          @daisy Behold this cursed thing

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          • daisy@cloudisland.nzD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @chaucerburnt fucksake

            At least the US foot in common use matches the UK foot I guess?

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            • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

              Also apparently there is a separate definition for US food labelling that is exactly 30mL which is hilarious

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              @daisy Reminds me of one of the first times I went to the UK, and noticed every pub had a sign saying how big their "shot" was; typically 20ml or 30ml, IIRC

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              • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

                WHAT DO YOU MEAN, 1 FLUID OUNCE OF WATER DOESNT WEIGH 1 OUNCE

                America are you OK over there???

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                @daisy but if a fluid ounce weighed an ounce it would be an ounce not a fluid ounce 🫣🫣🫣

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                • plaindocs@chaos.socialP plaindocs@chaos.social

                  @daisy but if a fluid ounce weighed an ounce it would be an ounce not a fluid ounce 🫣🫣🫣

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                  @plaindocs no

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                  • coderanger@cloudisland.nzC coderanger@cloudisland.nz

                    @daisy If it makes you feel better, I've been dealing with it for my whole life and I still have to double check how many ounces are in each unit because we just use mass and volume seemingly at random.

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                    @coderanger @daisy An old manager pointed out to me that for most practical purposes, everything (in cooking, at least) has about the same density as water.

                    Which would make sense for the UK floz, but he was a USAian...

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                    • funkybob@chaos.socialF funkybob@chaos.social

                      @coderanger @daisy An old manager pointed out to me that for most practical purposes, everything (in cooking, at least) has about the same density as water.

                      Which would make sense for the UK floz, but he was a USAian...

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                      @FunkyBob @coderanger The difference is like 4% so it’s probably within tolerance for home cooking I guess?

                      Also some digital kitchen scales do have a mode you can set them to that measures (presumably US) fl oz of water too

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                      • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

                        WHAT DO YOU MEAN, A FLUID OUNCE IS DIFFERENT IN THE US AND UK

                        AND THEN THE US HAS A THIRD DIFFERENT FLUID OUNCE

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                        @daisy don’t even get me started on gaseous ounces…! 😜

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                          @chaucerburnt @Reynardo oh it’s over 3cm, whoa

                          chunky inch

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                          • coderanger@cloudisland.nzC coderanger@cloudisland.nz

                            @daisy Behold this cursed thing

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                            @coderanger @daisy “biblically accurate imperial measures poster” 🙅‍♀️

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                            • itgrrl@infosec.exchangeI itgrrl@infosec.exchange

                              @daisy don’t even get me started on gaseous ounces…! 😜

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                              @itgrrl @daisy may I introduce you to oilfield units - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWEGzWFcCc

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                              • xssfox@cloudisland.nzX xssfox@cloudisland.nz

                                @itgrrl @daisy may I introduce you to oilfield units - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWEGzWFcCc

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                                @xssfox @daisy you may not 🙅‍♀️

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                                • itgrrl@infosec.exchangeI itgrrl@infosec.exchange

                                  @xssfox @daisy you may not 🙅‍♀️

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                                  @itgrrl @daisy but but but darcy's of permeability!

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                                  • coderanger@cloudisland.nzC coderanger@cloudisland.nz

                                    @daisy Behold this cursed thing

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                                    @coderanger To be fair, tsp/tbsp/cup are still used over here, but they’re defined in terms of mL. (1 tsp = 5mL, 1 tbsp = 20mL, 1 cup = 250mL.)

                                    Interestingly, the Australian metric tablespoon is 20mL but the international metric tablespoon is 15mL. So yeah, we are not entirely free of sin over here.

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                                    • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

                                      WHAT DO YOU MEAN, A FLUID OUNCE IS DIFFERENT IN THE US AND UK

                                      AND THEN THE US HAS A THIRD DIFFERENT FLUID OUNCE

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                                      @daisy Yes... and I'm afraid I have bad news for you about Australian Tablespoons. https://youtu.be/PWbfVcDcfFw?t=349

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                                      • freakboy3742@cloudisland.nzF freakboy3742@cloudisland.nz

                                        @daisy Yes... and I'm afraid I have bad news for you about Australian Tablespoons. https://youtu.be/PWbfVcDcfFw?t=349

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                                        @freakboy3742 https://cloudisland.nz/@daisy/116282612702474827

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                                        • daisy@cloudisland.nzD daisy@cloudisland.nz

                                          @freakboy3742 https://cloudisland.nz/@daisy/116282612702474827

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                                          @daisy Yup - caught that down the history after I posted. Sorry for the noise!

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