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  3. It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

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  • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

    It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

    It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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    @lifewithtrees I mean, I'm American and wouldn't feel entirely safe flying back there under the current regime, so it makes perfect sense to me that people who aren't US citizens would feel unsafe visiting the US.

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    • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

      It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

      It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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      @lifewithtrees American here, and I disagree. "Gaslighting" means it's intentional. I think you're overestimating the intelligence and self-awareness of my fellow countrycreatures. American exceptionalism is the product of a pathological lack of self-knowledge.

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      • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

        Also if you are an American reading this, I’ll be clear: it’s not hard feelings.

        It’s the threats of annexation
        It’s the support of separatists
        It’s the demanding access to all social media
        It’s the killing of citizens and non citizens
        It’s the concentration camps
        It’s the support that the above has by Americans who are totally cool with what’s happening.

        Yeah 25% off at a ski hill in Maine doesn’t deal with ANY of that.

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        @lifewithtrees 👍💯👍 Understood. And sorry.

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        • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

          Also if you are an American reading this, I’ll be clear: it’s not hard feelings.

          It’s the threats of annexation
          It’s the support of separatists
          It’s the demanding access to all social media
          It’s the killing of citizens and non citizens
          It’s the concentration camps
          It’s the support that the above has by Americans who are totally cool with what’s happening.

          Yeah 25% off at a ski hill in Maine doesn’t deal with ANY of that.

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          @lifewithtrees I'm on the other side of the Pacific and I feel this in my bones. The fact Americans don't... well, it's a worry

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          • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

            Also if you are an American reading this, I’ll be clear: it’s not hard feelings.

            It’s the threats of annexation
            It’s the support of separatists
            It’s the demanding access to all social media
            It’s the killing of citizens and non citizens
            It’s the concentration camps
            It’s the support that the above has by Americans who are totally cool with what’s happening.

            Yeah 25% off at a ski hill in Maine doesn’t deal with ANY of that.

            formerlystc@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @lifewithtrees It's all that for most of us on the inside, too.

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            • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

              It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

              It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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              @lifewithtrees Those same Americans had a fit when France wouldn’t go to war with Iraq. To the degree that they renamed French fries “freedom fries” and other assorted nonsense.

              MAGAts need to feel the economic hardship of Republicans turning the US into a pariah state.

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              • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

                It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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                @lifewithtrees Most of my friends who are white and middle class say this too. They are unaware of what it is like in this moment to have to stand in front of an American border guard or ICE agent and justify yourself with minimal legal protections. They are never in this situation.

                My American friends who are people of colour totally understand this reaction.

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                • drgecko@mastodon.socialD drgecko@mastodon.social

                  @lifewithtrees American here, and I disagree. "Gaslighting" means it's intentional. I think you're overestimating the intelligence and self-awareness of my fellow countrycreatures. American exceptionalism is the product of a pathological lack of self-knowledge.

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                  @DrGecko I think it’s intentional and abusers are abusing. It’s DARVO https://harbormentalhealth.com/2025/10/31/darvo-manipulation-how-to-spot-and-protect-yourself/

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                  • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                    Also if you are an American reading this, I’ll be clear: it’s not hard feelings.

                    It’s the threats of annexation
                    It’s the support of separatists
                    It’s the demanding access to all social media
                    It’s the killing of citizens and non citizens
                    It’s the concentration camps
                    It’s the support that the above has by Americans who are totally cool with what’s happening.

                    Yeah 25% off at a ski hill in Maine doesn’t deal with ANY of that.

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                    @lifewithtrees hard feelings are justified in this situation.

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                    • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                      It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

                      It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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                      @lifewithtrees My partner and I live in Las Vegas and are very sad about the recent lack of Canadian and other international tourism but I totally understand why it's happening and can't blame anyone for staying away! 💔

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                      • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                        It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

                        It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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                        @lifewithtrees We drove down to Key Largo a little over a week ago, and US1 looked like it did during the COVID lockdowns. I hadn't thought about the tourism hit the Keys would take, but it was very evident.

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                        • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                          @DrGecko I think it’s intentional and abusers are abusing. It’s DARVO https://harbormentalhealth.com/2025/10/31/darvo-manipulation-how-to-spot-and-protect-yourself/

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                          @lifewithtrees oh that's interesting; thanks for the ref. Apparently you can be manipulative without having a clue about what's going on. It's just a technique, a set of stereotyped responses. I'll buy that, although I still think that "gaslighting" gives us too much credit. Charles Boyer had a specific goal. He wasn't abusing just as a power play.

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                          • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                            @lifewithtrees

                            can't imagine why folks would object to illegal searches, harassment, imprisonment. just part of the US experience, right?

                            SMDH...

                            i can't imagine why anyone would want to cross a US border right now.

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                            @paul_ipv6 @lifewithtrees isn't the experience in china or saudi arabia more pleasant?
                            At least there are rules, and they play by the rules, so you know when you might get killed or jailed for life.
                            In the US there are no more rules. And nobody is going to visit a country with a lottery about what might happen

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                            • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                              It’s so weird seeing American folks worried about the drop in Canadian tourism and saying it’s due to Canadians having “hard feelings” and wondering why we can’t just put them aside.

                              It’s gaslighting and yet another reason not to go. Yeesh. 🙄

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                              OMG this is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.

                              This is shifting the blame on to Canadians rather than on the US 🙅🤦

                              Accountability means the US needs to own their own mess.

                              Fucked around and finding out.

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                              • lifewithtrees@mstdn.socialL lifewithtrees@mstdn.social

                                OMG this is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.

                                This is shifting the blame on to Canadians rather than on the US 🙅🤦

                                Accountability means the US needs to own their own mess.

                                Fucked around and finding out.

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                                @lifewithtrees I've (politely) commented on YouTube videos where presenter says some milquetoast comment about Canadians staying away due to some excuse like exchange rates to say explicitly we are going elsewhere becuase of Trumps anti democratic behaviour and belligerence to Canada.

                                The main reply I get is "stay home commie"

                                Geniuses the general American public is.

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                                • maleve@zeroes.caM maleve@zeroes.ca

                                  @lifewithtrees I've (politely) commented on YouTube videos where presenter says some milquetoast comment about Canadians staying away due to some excuse like exchange rates to say explicitly we are going elsewhere becuase of Trumps anti democratic behaviour and belligerence to Canada.

                                  The main reply I get is "stay home commie"

                                  Geniuses the general American public is.

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                                  #33

                                  @maleve @lifewithtrees To paraphrase Upton Sinclair: It is difficult to make someone understand the problem, when they know they are part of the problem.

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