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First leg of my interrail is not technically interrail, but a bus from Oulu to Haparanda, Sweden, paid without any concession.

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  • mkivinen@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
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    First leg of my interrail is not technically interrail, but a bus from Oulu to Haparanda, Sweden, paid without any concession. Feels weird to start the trip south by traveling northwards.

    The Finnish ticket shop Matkahuolto insists on using Finnish time everywhere, so according to timetable I’ll be arriving 13:05, instead of the actual 12:05. Also SJ sometimes shows timetables in user’s local time, making that, too an hour off. Annoying and unpractical.

    #interrail #winterrail #traintravel

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    • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

      First leg of my interrail is not technically interrail, but a bus from Oulu to Haparanda, Sweden, paid without any concession. Feels weird to start the trip south by traveling northwards.

      The Finnish ticket shop Matkahuolto insists on using Finnish time everywhere, so according to timetable I’ll be arriving 13:05, instead of the actual 12:05. Also SJ sometimes shows timetables in user’s local time, making that, too an hour off. Annoying and unpractical.

      #interrail #winterrail #traintravel

      tml@mementomori.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mkivinen Is that bus to the shared Tornio/Haparanda bus station? Then it is understandable that they show Finnish time, as the station is for both towns.

      Some days ago I did manage to get Matkahuolto to show the arrival in local time for a bus from Kemi to Haparanda railway station, which definitely is in Sweden. (This is a bus connection that begins next month.)

      But not sure how I did it, when I now search for the same connections, it shows just Finnish times, and I can't even get a result that would be displayed as in this screenshot. MaybeI used another site than matkahuolto.fi after all?

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        @mkivinen Is that bus to the shared Tornio/Haparanda bus station? Then it is understandable that they show Finnish time, as the station is for both towns.

        Some days ago I did manage to get Matkahuolto to show the arrival in local time for a bus from Kemi to Haparanda railway station, which definitely is in Sweden. (This is a bus connection that begins next month.)

        But not sure how I did it, when I now search for the same connections, it shows just Finnish times, and I can't even get a result that would be displayed as in this screenshot. MaybeI used another site than matkahuolto.fi after all?

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        @tml the Reitit & liput app shows local times, maybe it was that.

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        • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

          First leg of my interrail is not technically interrail, but a bus from Oulu to Haparanda, Sweden, paid without any concession. Feels weird to start the trip south by traveling northwards.

          The Finnish ticket shop Matkahuolto insists on using Finnish time everywhere, so according to timetable I’ll be arriving 13:05, instead of the actual 12:05. Also SJ sometimes shows timetables in user’s local time, making that, too an hour off. Annoying and unpractical.

          #interrail #winterrail #traintravel

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          I’m in Lapland!

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          • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

            @tml the Reitit & liput app shows local times, maybe it was that.

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            @mkivinen Ah, and it is reittiopas.matkahuolto.fi that shows local times for Haparanda railway station. (And allows you to specify time of day for the search.)

            Consistency is overrated.

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              @mkivinen Ah, and it is reittiopas.matkahuolto.fi that shows local times for Haparanda railway station. (And allows you to specify time of day for the search.)

              Consistency is overrated.

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              @mkivinen More fun inconsistencies: When searching for buses on March 2nd from Kemi railway station to Haparanda railway station, the reittiopas.matkahuolti.fi site shows the route on the map with correct locations for start and end stops, and the couple of stops in-between, but with just straight line segments between them.

              For the opposite journey, it doesn't manage to correctly show the journey starting at Haparanda railway station, but screws up the route completely there. The rest of the route does follow the actual road, though.

              #Matkahuolto #crossBorderRail

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                @mkivinen More fun inconsistencies: When searching for buses on March 2nd from Kemi railway station to Haparanda railway station, the reittiopas.matkahuolti.fi site shows the route on the map with correct locations for start and end stops, and the couple of stops in-between, but with just straight line segments between them.

                For the opposite journey, it doesn't manage to correctly show the journey starting at Haparanda railway station, but screws up the route completely there. The rest of the route does follow the actual road, though.

                #Matkahuolto #crossBorderRail

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                @tml @mkivinen Whoa, who came up with this schedule? There’s a bus too early and two busses too late?

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                  @tml @mkivinen Whoa, who came up with this schedule? There’s a bus too early and two busses too late?

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                  @partim @mkivinen The best experts available to Tornio municipality, no doubt!

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                    @partim @mkivinen The best experts available to Tornio municipality, no doubt!

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                    @partim @mkivinen If I were a cynic, I would say that the purpose with this schedule is to show that nobody uses such buses anyway, so they can be cancelled after a few months.

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                      @partim @mkivinen If I were a cynic, I would say that the purpose with this schedule is to show that nobody uses such buses anyway, so they can be cancelled after a few months.

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                      @tml @mkivinen There will be trains from this summer, no? Hopefully they will have a more sane schedule.

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                      • partim@social.tchncs.deP partim@social.tchncs.de

                        @tml @mkivinen There will be trains from this summer, no? Hopefully they will have a more sane schedule.

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                        @partim @mkivinen That is what I hope, sure, but before I actually sit in such a train I wouldn't bet on it.

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                          I’m in Lapland!

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                          And now in Sweden!

                          The bus route from Oulu ended to the Haparanda-Tornio Travel centre, but I asked the driver just for laughs if he was continuing to the railway station. He said he indeed has a habit to take a stretch there, in case someone is going.

                          I don't know if it's every driver's habit or official or if I just got lucky, but it was very nice, since the station was further than I thought.

                          #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel

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                            And now in Sweden!

                            The bus route from Oulu ended to the Haparanda-Tornio Travel centre, but I asked the driver just for laughs if he was continuing to the railway station. He said he indeed has a habit to take a stretch there, in case someone is going.

                            I don't know if it's every driver's habit or official or if I just got lucky, but it was very nice, since the station was further than I thought.

                            #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel

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                            @mkivinen That's good service, congrats!

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                              And now in Sweden!

                              The bus route from Oulu ended to the Haparanda-Tornio Travel centre, but I asked the driver just for laughs if he was continuing to the railway station. He said he indeed has a habit to take a stretch there, in case someone is going.

                              I don't know if it's every driver's habit or official or if I just got lucky, but it was very nice, since the station was further than I thought.

                              #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel

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                              And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                              #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                                And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                                #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                                I still won't get into a train, though, since there's an replacement bus between Haparanda and Luleå. Depending on the source this is because of broken train or not enough of train.

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                                  And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                                  #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                                  @mkivinen so beautiful 😍

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                                    And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                                    #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                                    @mkivinen There's a sign announcing a “Kafé”, though, did you follow it to look there?

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                                      @mkivinen There's a sign announcing a “Kafé”, though, did you follow it to look there?

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                                      @tomminieminen This is a really small station, but I checked like ten times, just in case. There is no cafeteria. 😩

                                      But I do have some instant coffee, milk and sugar with me, and a freeze box that can be used as a mug. If there's warm enough water in the washroom, I could have a lukewarm cuppa. 🤔

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                                        @tomminieminen This is a really small station, but I checked like ten times, just in case. There is no cafeteria. 😩

                                        But I do have some instant coffee, milk and sugar with me, and a freeze box that can be used as a mug. If there's warm enough water in the washroom, I could have a lukewarm cuppa. 🤔

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                                        @mkivinen Well, the Kafé arrow points at the direction of Utgång, so maybe the intention is “if coffee is what you want, please take the nearest exit and go fish”.

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                                        • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                                          I still won't get into a train, though, since there's an replacement bus between Haparanda and Luleå. Depending on the source this is because of broken train or not enough of train.

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                                          Finally in the night train from Luleå to Stockholm!

                                          The route from Oulu was surprisingly fluent. There were long-ish waits between the legs, but taken SJ's unreliability, possible transfers between stations and provision shopping, it's actually a good thing.

                                          My next concern is if this train is on time and if I'll have time for the hotel breakfast before my next breakfast in the train to Malmö.

                                          #Interrail #TrainTravel

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