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  3. First leg of my interrail is not technically interrail, but a bus from Oulu to Haparanda, Sweden, paid without any concession.

First leg of my interrail is not technically interrail, but a bus from Oulu to Haparanda, Sweden, paid without any concession.

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  • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

    @tml the Reitit & liput app shows local times, maybe it was that.

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    @mkivinen Ah, and it is reittiopas.matkahuolto.fi that shows local times for Haparanda railway station. (And allows you to specify time of day for the search.)

    Consistency is overrated.

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      @mkivinen Ah, and it is reittiopas.matkahuolto.fi that shows local times for Haparanda railway station. (And allows you to specify time of day for the search.)

      Consistency is overrated.

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      @mkivinen More fun inconsistencies: When searching for buses on March 2nd from Kemi railway station to Haparanda railway station, the reittiopas.matkahuolti.fi site shows the route on the map with correct locations for start and end stops, and the couple of stops in-between, but with just straight line segments between them.

      For the opposite journey, it doesn't manage to correctly show the journey starting at Haparanda railway station, but screws up the route completely there. The rest of the route does follow the actual road, though.

      #Matkahuolto #crossBorderRail

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        @mkivinen More fun inconsistencies: When searching for buses on March 2nd from Kemi railway station to Haparanda railway station, the reittiopas.matkahuolti.fi site shows the route on the map with correct locations for start and end stops, and the couple of stops in-between, but with just straight line segments between them.

        For the opposite journey, it doesn't manage to correctly show the journey starting at Haparanda railway station, but screws up the route completely there. The rest of the route does follow the actual road, though.

        #Matkahuolto #crossBorderRail

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        @tml @mkivinen Whoa, who came up with this schedule? There’s a bus too early and two busses too late?

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        • partim@social.tchncs.deP partim@social.tchncs.de

          @tml @mkivinen Whoa, who came up with this schedule? There’s a bus too early and two busses too late?

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          @partim @mkivinen The best experts available to Tornio municipality, no doubt!

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            @partim @mkivinen The best experts available to Tornio municipality, no doubt!

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            @partim @mkivinen If I were a cynic, I would say that the purpose with this schedule is to show that nobody uses such buses anyway, so they can be cancelled after a few months.

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            • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

              @partim @mkivinen If I were a cynic, I would say that the purpose with this schedule is to show that nobody uses such buses anyway, so they can be cancelled after a few months.

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              @tml @mkivinen There will be trains from this summer, no? Hopefully they will have a more sane schedule.

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              • partim@social.tchncs.deP partim@social.tchncs.de

                @tml @mkivinen There will be trains from this summer, no? Hopefully they will have a more sane schedule.

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                @partim @mkivinen That is what I hope, sure, but before I actually sit in such a train I wouldn't bet on it.

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                • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                  I’m in Lapland!

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                  And now in Sweden!

                  The bus route from Oulu ended to the Haparanda-Tornio Travel centre, but I asked the driver just for laughs if he was continuing to the railway station. He said he indeed has a habit to take a stretch there, in case someone is going.

                  I don't know if it's every driver's habit or official or if I just got lucky, but it was very nice, since the station was further than I thought.

                  #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel

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                  • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                    And now in Sweden!

                    The bus route from Oulu ended to the Haparanda-Tornio Travel centre, but I asked the driver just for laughs if he was continuing to the railway station. He said he indeed has a habit to take a stretch there, in case someone is going.

                    I don't know if it's every driver's habit or official or if I just got lucky, but it was very nice, since the station was further than I thought.

                    #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel

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                    @mkivinen That's good service, congrats!

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                    • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                      And now in Sweden!

                      The bus route from Oulu ended to the Haparanda-Tornio Travel centre, but I asked the driver just for laughs if he was continuing to the railway station. He said he indeed has a habit to take a stretch there, in case someone is going.

                      I don't know if it's every driver's habit or official or if I just got lucky, but it was very nice, since the station was further than I thought.

                      #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel

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                      And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                      #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                      • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                        And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                        #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                        I still won't get into a train, though, since there's an replacement bus between Haparanda and Luleå. Depending on the source this is because of broken train or not enough of train.

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                        • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                          And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                          #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                          @mkivinen so beautiful 😍

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                          • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                            And what a station Haparanda is! Magnificent! The only thing missing is a cafeteria, but luckily I have some provisions. It does feel a tad unrespectful to nibble knäckebröd in this fancy environment, though.

                            #Interrail #CrossBorderRail #TrainTravel #haparanda

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                            @mkivinen There's a sign announcing a “Kafé”, though, did you follow it to look there?

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                              @mkivinen There's a sign announcing a “Kafé”, though, did you follow it to look there?

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                              @tomminieminen This is a really small station, but I checked like ten times, just in case. There is no cafeteria. 😩

                              But I do have some instant coffee, milk and sugar with me, and a freeze box that can be used as a mug. If there's warm enough water in the washroom, I could have a lukewarm cuppa. 🤔

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                              • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                                @tomminieminen This is a really small station, but I checked like ten times, just in case. There is no cafeteria. 😩

                                But I do have some instant coffee, milk and sugar with me, and a freeze box that can be used as a mug. If there's warm enough water in the washroom, I could have a lukewarm cuppa. 🤔

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                                @mkivinen Well, the Kafé arrow points at the direction of Utgång, so maybe the intention is “if coffee is what you want, please take the nearest exit and go fish”.

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                                • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                                  I still won't get into a train, though, since there's an replacement bus between Haparanda and Luleå. Depending on the source this is because of broken train or not enough of train.

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                                  Finally in the night train from Luleå to Stockholm!

                                  The route from Oulu was surprisingly fluent. There were long-ish waits between the legs, but taken SJ's unreliability, possible transfers between stations and provision shopping, it's actually a good thing.

                                  My next concern is if this train is on time and if I'll have time for the hotel breakfast before my next breakfast in the train to Malmö.

                                  #Interrail #TrainTravel

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                                  • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                                    Finally in the night train from Luleå to Stockholm!

                                    The route from Oulu was surprisingly fluent. There were long-ish waits between the legs, but taken SJ's unreliability, possible transfers between stations and provision shopping, it's actually a good thing.

                                    My next concern is if this train is on time and if I'll have time for the hotel breakfast before my next breakfast in the train to Malmö.

                                    #Interrail #TrainTravel

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                                    @mkivinen Isn't it possible to enjoy the breakfast in the train, don't the night trains between Northern Sweden and Stockholm have restaurant cars? At least last year when I travelled in a 1st class sleeping car Boden–Stockholm there was breakfast available in the restaurant car.

                                    (But yeah, it was the same box as in the SJ Snabbtåg... the hotel one surely is better if you have time.)

                                    I was coming from the Narvik direction and changed into the sleeping car from Luleå in Boden. The bistro car was missing from the Narvik–Luleå train, so I was very hungry in the evening before I finally got something to eat in the restaurant car.

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                                      @mkivinen Isn't it possible to enjoy the breakfast in the train, don't the night trains between Northern Sweden and Stockholm have restaurant cars? At least last year when I travelled in a 1st class sleeping car Boden–Stockholm there was breakfast available in the restaurant car.

                                      (But yeah, it was the same box as in the SJ Snabbtåg... the hotel one surely is better if you have time.)

                                      I was coming from the Narvik direction and changed into the sleeping car from Luleå in Boden. The bistro car was missing from the Narvik–Luleå train, so I was very hungry in the evening before I finally got something to eat in the restaurant car.

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                                      @tml I'll have to check that! I was under the impression that all the SJ first class breakfasts are hotel based now. It would be great to be wrong, though, since I just noticed that the Stockholm hotel breakfast starts half an hour later than previously, which is too late for me.

                                      #interrail #TrainTrvel

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                                      • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                                        Finally in the night train from Luleå to Stockholm!

                                        The route from Oulu was surprisingly fluent. There were long-ish waits between the legs, but taken SJ's unreliability, possible transfers between stations and provision shopping, it's actually a good thing.

                                        My next concern is if this train is on time and if I'll have time for the hotel breakfast before my next breakfast in the train to Malmö.

                                        #Interrail #TrainTravel

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                                        @mkivinen Welcome to Stockholm 👋

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                                        • mkivinen@toot.communityM mkivinen@toot.community

                                          @tml I'll have to check that! I was under the impression that all the SJ first class breakfasts are hotel based now. It would be great to be wrong, though, since I just noticed that the Stockholm hotel breakfast starts half an hour later than previously, which is too late for me.

                                          #interrail #TrainTrvel

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                                          @mkivinen @tml

                                          No dining car on the night train Stockholm-Malmö = breakfast on hotel.

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                                          SJ (www.sj.se)

                                          But info in English is contradictory
                                          https://www.sj.se/en/about-the-journey/sj-night-train/sleeping-compartment-1-class

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