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  3. We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles.

We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles.

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  • anon_opin@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles. Now is the time to set a date after which petrol won't be sold. A decade from now seems about right.

    botvolution@mastodon.sdf.orgB drwho@masto.hackers.townD chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC vicarvernon@mastodon.me.ukV 4 Replies Last reply
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    • anon_opin@mastodon.socialA anon_opin@mastodon.social

      We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles. Now is the time to set a date after which petrol won't be sold. A decade from now seems about right.

      botvolution@mastodon.sdf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @anon_opin
      Can't wait for the government to present me with my free EV, otherwise I'll be fucked

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      • anon_opin@mastodon.socialA anon_opin@mastodon.social

        We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles. Now is the time to set a date after which petrol won't be sold. A decade from now seems about right.

        drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @anon_opin Who can afford one?

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        • anon_opin@mastodon.socialA anon_opin@mastodon.social

          We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles. Now is the time to set a date after which petrol won't be sold. A decade from now seems about right.

          chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @anon_opin No, let it die out slowly, otherwise there will be loads of people complaining that they can't use their classic cars etc. which is valid.

          Promote electric vehicles, stop selling new ICE ones (except for valid reasons?), and let the market do the rest.

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            @anon_opin Who can afford one?

            wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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            @drwho @anon_opin who can afford to run a petrol car?

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            • chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net

              @anon_opin No, let it die out slowly, otherwise there will be loads of people complaining that they can't use their classic cars etc. which is valid.

              Promote electric vehicles, stop selling new ICE ones (except for valid reasons?), and let the market do the rest.

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              @chewie @anon_opin

              I think there'll be an avalanche effect, at least in the UK.

              After new petrol and diesel cars stop being sold in a few years' time, filling stations will slowly start closing or transitioning away from fossil fuels in favour of EV chargers. With fewer ICE drivers on the roads, there'll be fewer economies of scale, and petrol and diesel prices will rise. ICE cars will become more inconvenient and more expensive to drive, and that'll make EVs comparatively more attractive, accelerating the shift from fossil fuels to electricity. Each driver who makes the shift will make it harder for the remaining ICE drivers to cling on.

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              • wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW wifiwits@infosec.exchange

                @drwho @anon_opin who can afford to run a petrol car?

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                @Wifiwits @anon_opin I meant, who can afford to buy a car at all right now?

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                • anon_opin@mastodon.socialA anon_opin@mastodon.social

                  We're doing good work on getting people to drive, and enjoy, electric vehicles. Now is the time to set a date after which petrol won't be sold. A decade from now seems about right.

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                  @anon_opin there will come a tipping point where petrol retailers exit the market as the returns diminish, causing supply difficulties, that until recently EV owners suffered from. The question then is whether that will come quickly enough, or needs to be forced.

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                  • wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW wifiwits@infosec.exchange

                    @drwho @anon_opin who can afford to run a petrol car?

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                    @Wifiwits @drwho @anon_opin
                    Tru dat.

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                    • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                      @chewie @anon_opin

                      I think there'll be an avalanche effect, at least in the UK.

                      After new petrol and diesel cars stop being sold in a few years' time, filling stations will slowly start closing or transitioning away from fossil fuels in favour of EV chargers. With fewer ICE drivers on the roads, there'll be fewer economies of scale, and petrol and diesel prices will rise. ICE cars will become more inconvenient and more expensive to drive, and that'll make EVs comparatively more attractive, accelerating the shift from fossil fuels to electricity. Each driver who makes the shift will make it harder for the remaining ICE drivers to cling on.

                      chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @CppGuy @anon_opin exactly.

                      Just banning ICE vehicles would create so much waste when they could still be useful for a few years longer.

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                      • chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net

                        @CppGuy @anon_opin exactly.

                        Just banning ICE vehicles would create so much waste when they could still be useful for a few years longer.

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                        @chewie

                        Agreed. It's not in the interests of the environment to scrap new cars.

                        For the benefit of any bystanders who didn't follow the link, the ban will prevent the sale of new ICE cars in the UK; it won't ban the use of ICE cars that already exist.

                        @anon_opin

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