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  • don_kun@nerdculture.deD don_kun@nerdculture.de

    @Geri @freyjfreyj yes.

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    @Don_kun @freyjfreyj

    I looked into why not solar

    Financial Barriers: The U.S. embargo restricts #Cuba's access to international financing and raises the cost of importing components. With a $12 billion foreign debt, the government lacks the capital for massive upfront investments.

    ​Infrastructure Issues: The national grid was built in the 1980s and is too unstable to handle large amounts of variable solar power without expensive battery storage, which Cuba currently lacks

    Oh dear

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      @Petesmom isn't this just more hegemony?

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      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

        @Don_kun @freyjfreyj

        I looked into why not solar

        Financial Barriers: The U.S. embargo restricts #Cuba's access to international financing and raises the cost of importing components. With a $12 billion foreign debt, the government lacks the capital for massive upfront investments.

        ​Infrastructure Issues: The national grid was built in the 1980s and is too unstable to handle large amounts of variable solar power without expensive battery storage, which Cuba currently lacks

        Oh dear

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        @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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        • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

          @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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          @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj yes. Every bit taken off the grid load means the grid can work better/longer for those who can't use solar. The only problem I can see is that with embargoes in place it'd be difficult to provide more hardware than was actually in Cuba already.

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          • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

            @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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            @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj@mastodon.social

            My understanding is that it's very difficult for individuals to import anything into Cuba independently of the state.

            I believe that China is sympathetic to Cuba but getting anything onto the island is fraught with problems due to the combination of US embargoes, Cuban debt, and Cuban state inflexibility.

            Cuban people have learnt to be resilient and resourceful - the current nastiness from the US government will test their resolve.

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            • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

              @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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              @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj

              Back to China. China is the solar superpower and would provide the infrastructure just like Belt and Road. Not necessarily hegemony - not necessarily economic imperialism. The issue would be the US reaction. Cuban agriculture has already become mostly decarbonised. The problem still remains of over-reliance on a single cash crop when there is an embargo.
              There is already stuff on the net: https://cuba-solidarity.org.uk/

              Sign the petition for the EDM.

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              • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

                @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj yes. Every bit taken off the grid load means the grid can work better/longer for those who can't use solar. The only problem I can see is that with embargoes in place it'd be difficult to provide more hardware than was actually in Cuba already.

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                @capnthommo @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj Seems like panels, even domestic ones, will have to come into Cuba in small pieces/individual cells and literally be assembled in the country. I truly hope this is possible.

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                • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                  There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                  Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                  Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                  No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

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                  @Geri This might give Cuba a great boost towards renewables, which would, in the long run, be much more economical for them. After a shock, it might give their economy a long term boost.

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                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                    There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                    Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                    Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                    No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

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                    US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

                    As the US oil embargo on Cuba takes hold, the country is rapidly running out of fuel. The effects on the country's economy and population could be devastating, a Latin America expert in Havana told DW.

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                    @Geri Solar brings independence

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                    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                      There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                      Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                      Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                      No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                      🇨🇺

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                      US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

                      As the US oil embargo on Cuba takes hold, the country is rapidly running out of fuel. The effects on the country's economy and population could be devastating, a Latin America expert in Havana told DW.

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                      @Geri
                      One of my sisters, a son, and a daughter of my lady, at different times stayed with Cuban families for their vacations. I'm getting messages of concern for those families that were their hosts.

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                      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                        @teedubyeah I would suggest. The people who left the island of Cuba left because they did not care to live there or wish to support that country anymore, so, in that respect, there may be a non sequitur in your statement xx

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                        @Geri my statement is 100% related. I grew up in South Florida and am very attune to cubans and Cuban culture. The people that left Cuba mostly want a free Cuba, but they fell for the lies of Castro and have failed to recognize that Trump is the same monster. They have failed to learn the lesson, they have failed to educate themselves. An uneducated population is easy to control.

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                          @MarkBrigham @Don_kun @freyjfreyj @capnthommo @HarriettMB it is an ocean from my knowledge. Soz xx

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                          • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                            There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                            Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                            Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                            No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                            🇨🇺

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                            US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

                            As the US oil embargo on Cuba takes hold, the country is rapidly running out of fuel. The effects on the country's economy and population could be devastating, a Latin America expert in Havana told DW.

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                            @Geri

                            There is an entire dark fleet out there carrying oil. Not a single one of those ships can come to Cuba's aid? Not even at "spot prices"?

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                              @Petesmom @Geri China has been stepping in to help, especially with renewables; we need to step up as well.

                              https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3343242/china-vows-do-what-it-can-us-blockade-leaves-cuba-just-weeks-oil

                              https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/china-is-quietly-supplanting-russia-cubas-main-benefactor-2025-06-30/

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                              • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                                Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                                Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                                No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                                🇨🇺

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                                US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

                                As the US oil embargo on Cuba takes hold, the country is rapidly running out of fuel. The effects on the country's economy and population could be devastating, a Latin America expert in Havana told DW.

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                                @Geri
                                #Cuba won't collapse due to any oil shortage.

                                This is all part of scam devised by #PutinsPuppet to make #Russia the sole supplier of oil to Cuba (and save Russia's struggling economy due to their war in #Ukraine.)

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                                • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                  There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                                  Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                                  Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                                  No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

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                                  US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

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                                  @Geri
                                  It's already too late; after 15 days of blockade, the power went out. Which means huge problems with water supply & sewer-systems. As that was days ago,, hospitals & co are very likely also already in the dark.

                                  Large Man abroad (US Video Channel, the guy was in the military) reported at the beginning of the blockade, as well after the power-out (including predictions about usual effects on the population). TL&DR: expect deaths in the 100ks

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                                  • T teedubyeah@mastodon.social

                                    @Geri my statement is 100% related. I grew up in South Florida and am very attune to cubans and Cuban culture. The people that left Cuba mostly want a free Cuba, but they fell for the lies of Castro and have failed to recognize that Trump is the same monster. They have failed to learn the lesson, they have failed to educate themselves. An uneducated population is easy to control.

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                                    @teedubyeah I listen to no white dude who reeks selfishness and callousness.

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                                    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                      There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                                      Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                                      Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                                      No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                                      🇨🇺

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

                                      As the US oil embargo on Cuba takes hold, the country is rapidly running out of fuel. The effects on the country's economy and population could be devastating, a Latin America expert in Havana told DW.

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                                      @Geri and then they wonder why countries want to use nuclear power

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                                      • awesomesheep48@gts.awesomesheep48.caA awesomesheep48@gts.awesomesheep48.ca

                                        @Petesmom @Geri China has been stepping in to help, especially with renewables; we need to step up as well.

                                        https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3343242/china-vows-do-what-it-can-us-blockade-leaves-cuba-just-weeks-oil

                                        https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/china-is-quietly-supplanting-russia-cubas-main-benefactor-2025-06-30/

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                                        @awesomesheep48 @Petesmom @Geri good to know. The US is being the evil bully it has always been but it's good that others are helping out where they can. This won't be the first time the US has accidentally motivated Cuba into becoming more self-sufficient. Hopefully this too will have a happy ending in the long run

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                                        • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                          There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                                          Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                                          Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                                          No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                                          🇨🇺

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                                          US oil blockade: How long before Cuba collapses?

                                          As the US oil embargo on Cuba takes hold, the country is rapidly running out of fuel. The effects on the country's economy and population could be devastating, a Latin America expert in Havana told DW.

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                                          @Geri I say this often but still not often enough: Fuck the USA.

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